Tonight’s prime had a mixture of feelings of bad and good. Tonight’s guest was Star Academy previous student Ahmed el Sherif, who sang a number of his hit songs. One of the highlights of his visits was that he has fallen in love, and it has been for a long time but he did not say whom.
The first reportage was regarding Fatima, to why she left and what happened. The reportage showed how she was ill and her admitting to hospital, alongside what happened at the house. Najid said he is certain (“akeed”) of marrying her.
Then the big bust up between Mouayed and Fateema was shown, Mouayed claims Fateema’s decision regarding the voting was “tanaketh” and there were many events Fateema did like this. Kholoud said regarding the event, honesty is much better than lying and it is better for the couple.
Despite the upsetting moments and the disagreement with Fateema and Mouayed, this did not stop Fateema from becoming a bride. She found the hairstyle, make up and the dress, but she lost a chance of a relationship. Hopefully, she finds a new person who she can continue her life with successfully.
Mouayed wished her luck and that there are not any bad feelings.
Here are the voting results from highest to lowest:
Aya 30.49%
Patricia 29.68%
Gabi 16.62%
Fatima 13.74%
Fateema 9.47%
The boys protected this week Gabi and Aya; this meant that Fateema had to leave the show.
The big conflict between Avril and Kholoud was highlighted. Avril said she will not forgive Kholoud because of her son’s examination and she does not want to stress him even more. Kholoud is very happy even if she is disliked.
The questions this week from housemates to other housemates were a mixture. Wassim asked Taunt Rawda if her exaggeration and severe anger when she was nominated was used to deter other girls from nominating her. Kholoud asked Bassel what would happen if Pati’s decision conflicts Avril’s, Bassel said his mum comes first. Pousy asked Aymen regarding the self-abuse he did and was it correct to do such thing. Mouayed asked Taunt Kholoud the difference between control and belonging (“moulek”). There were other questions as well from the housemates to the others.
There is never a relationship when it’s perfect, so we can accept little downfalls from any relationship, like Pat Pout and Basselito. The next reportage showed Pati upset, while some romance between the two.
Following that, the conflicts never seem to end. The argument regarding work and the future between Avril and Gabi was put in a special reportage. Avril and Gabi are now speaking and the problem has been resolved. Kholoud said in her response to this little conflict, she said that she does not mind if Wassim goes to Tunis for Aya, as long its best for him.
This week, the girls did the tuff challenge as well as the boys.
For the girls, they had to do some rock climbing, in which Aya won. And for the boys, they did a car race, in which Aymen won.
Aya of course invited Wassim and Wassim asked to invite Pati and Bassel. Aymen won a diamond ring (the same as Aya’s) for Gabi. Gabi was shook, and she was confused, she didn’t want it to be an engagement ring. But Roula (the presenter) said it’s a promise ring. In Gabi’s response to this gift was that it would remind her of Aymen’s moan ness (ne3).
For Pati and Bassel, they didn’t won anything, but will have fish this week. Pati asked for the most difficult to clean fish so the boys can suffer cleaning it.
The prize for perfect Bride is a satisfactory, this is what it includes:
- $100,000 money
- From DTC Diamond set worth $35,000
- From Special K, a trip to Thailand for health centres (spa’s and so on).
The prizes sound good, but being nominated doesn’t sound good. Here is whom the girls nominated.
Lina nominated Aymen.
Pati nominated Wassim.
Gabi nominated Najid.
Aya nominated Bassel.
Pousy nominated Mouayed.
All the boys are nominated; this is the last time for the boys to be nominated by the girls and for being voted by the audience. Next week the girls will be nominated. On the last week, the audience have to vote for the Perfect Bride, which are the four finalist girls. At the last week of the programme, there will four girls, four boys and four mums. My advice is to save your money up for the final week!
By Guest Writer Lala

Comments
thx a lot lala,
i am a big big fan of gabi and i hope that she wins but at the same time i dont want her to marry that jerk ayman
Thank u lara for the report..
also thank u for adding about patpout and bassilito.. . i like the reportage about them it was soo cute..
lara one small thing please.. about kholoud question to bassel.. he didn't answer like u wrote.
she ask him 2 question.. the first was.. about if u say that wassim is like your brother, how your mom affection descion to u.
He said first I don't compare my mom to anyone and she left everything to come her with me. at least respect and thing her opnion than kholoud said thank u.. " mafi kher la helo ma fi kher to his wife" than she ask him. if u had a conflict with your wife and your mom descion was to leave your wife do u will listen.
he said a wonderfull answer he said. when i say i thing my mom opnion because i know who is my mom.
( which does mean his mom will never do that.. )
his answer was amasing..
I just wanted to clarify because u wrote that his mom come first.. he never said that..
again thank u soo much for your report always waitt for it.
also i post the sms night in the section kholoud/ avril do u want i post them her. so like that eveyrone can see it.
thanks again laritoo. u r the best
goo basselito and patpout
Junerito thanks a lot, and am more than happy.
Cause there were more questions the housemates asked but i tried to minimise it as much as possible. Cause i didn't remember word for word what bassel said cause i didn't catch up to write it on my notes, but u are right. Cause i tried to remember and i thought he said something about his mum like sort of shecomes first sort of thing, or like as u said cause ur correct. And the one thing i won't forget is the bad look pati gave, i was very into that after bassel finished what he said. But u r right. I stopped for a while thinking about pati's look then i totally forgot about bassel, and i knew he was taling about his mum. Sorry about the mistake.
Cause on my notes, i try to write 5 words for most events but i didn't get to that on the questions.
And june it would be great if u can post it here.
And thank loads loads and loads and loads for your videos.
Farah u are more than welcome.
Oh yeah June, ur very very very close to knowing my actual name. Wow!
fatima was cute with her weading dress even natural she looks great, gaby in the last prime looks very ugly natural when she was preparing herself to wear the wedding dress until now between lina gaby and fatima i found gaby the most ugliest one natural. Did anyone notice that?
Tekram younik laritooo
the sms night..For the couplease
enjoy it..
Part 1
http://www.badongo.com/vid/424445
Part 2
http://www.badongo.com/vid/424462
Part 3
http://www.badongo.com/vid/424473
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The sms night for the mothers
Part 1
http://www.badongo.com/vid/425096
Part 2
http://www.badongo.com/vid/425110
Part 3
http://www.badongo.com/vid/425114
Part 4
http://www.badongo.com/vid/425128
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Thank u laritoooo
Lartiooo about patpout reaction.. i don't think she understood bassel answer.. she was mad from kholoud question... because in the dailies she was asking gabi what he answer...
Laritoooo I have some question please.
1) Can u please tell us what happen after the mother sms.. because it seem hot..
if taunt avril talk with patty...
also everything it is going good between her and patpout..
2) Do u know what is the big move action that taunt avril will do in the upcoming prime. she talk about it in the dailies and also in the sms.
yatiky 1000 hafiyerya laritooo
Thank u...
goo basselitoo and patpout
special regards to audrey, elissa and sarah
Thank you June for taking the time to post these links! You are truely amazing!
I came to the conclusion that Khalood is a straight out liar with a big L! I can't believe she has the audacity to actually think we(audience) are dumb enough to believe her lies. If you guys watched the links from the mothers' SMS, you would clearly detect her lies. For instance, she received a message asking her why she has told Patty that Avaril doesn't like her...Khalood denied that she has said anything to that effect, and she repeatedly stated that she's not that stupid to talk about Avaril when there are numerous cameras around. I again was dumbfounded, but yet again, it's khalood and we shouldn't expect anything less from her. I'm 100 percent positive that she sat down with patty and Gabby and told patty taht Avaril doesn't like her.
I just wish that during the prime they would expose her and show her endless lies!!!!!!!! She's a crook! I have no respect for her, and I am beginning to dislike her immensely as each day passes by.
u r welcome audrey..
after watching the mother sms..
now i am scare from avril reaction toward patty.
because kholoud keep saying patty patty patty..
with sentence in it. ask patty about it..to avril.
she is trying her best to break the cutest couple. and the way to break them is to change avril mind and kholoud does know that.
seriously there is something in avril mind..the "action" she talk about in the dailies..
that she will do something this friday and she repeated back in the sms.
goo basselito and patpout..
hope they stay together ...
take care audrey
kholod is trying her best to make avril belives that she didnt say anything bad about her to patty, all what kholod told patty that the girls needs to know everything about the man and his family before taking decesion, and that what she did with Aya.
kholod and patty were wondering why avril got angry when patty said i need to visit kuwait before i say yes.
i watched this part and they were discussing geneal topic all time and kholod was taking about what she tought aya and what wassim said to aya. nothing more. Patty agreed with kholod in everything she said to her.
kholod asked avril to ask patty if she said anything bad about her, but avril refused. Why do you think she is not trying to ask patty?????
You know that Avril and kholod told the girls about SMS, why do you think Patty didnt try to explain to Avril that kholod didnt say anything against avril. I guess avril and patty are happy that people think otherwise and kholod is bad mum.
Kholod is good mum and great charactor, if you do try to understand her. but if you look at her as compatable to avril then you will never understand or accept her.
thanx lala for the résumé
wow yesterday sms night for the mothers-in-law was great. finally people saw the so called Avril truth. she was arrogant soo arrogant
i hate her more and more now and yesterday she showed the evil face of her..embara7 fada7oha fel sms night and kol mabyeje sms mo mnee7 radet fe3la btkon kteer arrogant. beeeuuuuugh i hate her so much
i really do sympathize with Paty. 3anjad she will suffer wel moseeba she can't rely on Bassel whom i sympathize with him coz it is not his fault having such arrogant, cruel mom..
allah y3inon 3al bala
by the way, to show u the difference btw madame kholoud and Avril:
in the sms night, madame kholood got many msgs informing her that avril backstab her a lot and that she is the best and eno mayhemha mel 7osad
khlood answers were like may god be always with me
but when the witch avril got the sms saying to be cautious from Madame khlood, her answers were arrogant and especially one answer that really shocked me : 2alat bel 7arf el wa7ad: "allah yba3ed 3layna awlad el 7aram!!!!"
Madame kholod did not care about her other answers but was pissed and upset from kelmet awlad el 7aram!!!!
she did not respect not only madame khlod but also her family...
i know they won't show this in the dailies like they didn't show the sms for wassim and aya..
gabiii is my favourite i like her a lottt really she never said anything wrong shes gr88 i hope she leaves this looser cause theres millions just waiting for herrr
the best thing in the prime is Ahmad Al-Sherif ..he was so attractive and add some life and love to the prime rather than fighting and hating ......I admit all the girls in the program want to marry some one like Ahmad Al-sherif ...therefore some of them didn't make a couple till now ......
By the way could you WALEG please put Ahmad Al-Sherif vedio and Pictures for the Four songs he sing in the prime espacially the song of Toli Bi Al-2abiad) of the startting of the prime when he tackle Rola Bahnam's hand ....please
i have seen this show since the day mousad left so i don't know if there were any other guys but i don't like any of the guys. they don't have a class whatsoever ... may be bassle a little bit better. when he is critisized again and agian he took it very well without exploding like the others would have, i like that. and i am almost sure non of the girls will marry any of the boys but they will be married to somebody else with in a year or so
Q. what was gabi's reason to nominate nejid this time? i still think she have got the hots for him.
Q how come nancy is never invited to lbc reality shows?
peace
agree with Rana
please Walege put here the pictures of Ahmad Cherif as well as his vedio forthe four song
I love AhmadCherif so much
yas guys always when ahmad Al-Sherif come in any program ,the prim must be unique an distanguish...really he is superior star ,,,and expect for him very brilliant future....I love his new song so much ....
by the way the most ugly girl in the program is Gaby ,,I hate her voice when speak ..she look like Banat Al-LeeL as well as I hate her stupid Ayman ..I hope both of them will be kicked out before the final
the final must be between Najd, Bassel , Mo2yad and Wassim
Khouloud is a big liar.I watched the quotidienne, she definitely told Patty that Avril doesn't like her.She is a very natural liar, unclassy, arrogant woman .Very disgusting!she thinks being vulgar & loud is a strong , smart character
Wassim is as hypocrit as her.he needs more education before dragging a girl into marriage
Watch Khouloud saying I,I,I,I..she thinks she is the famous in the show.I hope not all Jordanian women are like her, she is a bad image of her country. Moayad & Nidal are the classiest of all, educated, smart, well-to-do family
Wassim & Aya are non-existant in this show.We hardly hear their voices.Aya just eats.She cannot even finish a sentence.Haram.They both should finish their education, or they'll end up like Khouloud a street vulgar smart
Go Patty, Bassel, Gaby & Moayad...you are the best
to manal
aya and wassim are non-existant coz that rola sa3d does not show them coz she knows people will like them the most
the proof yesterday when the cam was on them afternon,the sms chat walla3 3la kanat sahar coz they showed wassim and aya
but what to do she wants the silly couple bassel and paty to win
malat 3aliha hia wayahom
this is a lebanese programe what do you expect to see the lebanaise an angel and the rest of the world bad they bo----shi- i don't like the way even the audience react to the others when the are on stage and i thing bassel coing to propse to batty to show the people that he want her for real and he got all the price and may get maired and after one year or less divorce her and splite the mony with patty for the (moakar) and the only one who is going to have a broken heart is patty becauce his mom whan't let him stay with her .avril is a dectator me me me my my my children me my we we me my me all she can say and because she is lebanaise she is going to be an angel for sure.khouloud said when a mother dosen't do what her sun and wife what that's mean she does't like his wife and gaby said the same so khouloud bad and gaby good because gaby lebanaise .
hi everyone i have been reading your comments for a while now. i respect everyones opinion and analysis espacially the ones who are objective and respectable. but what force me to write was one person who called my attention from her deep haterd for anything lebanese i don't understand why soooooooooo much hate in her heart for the people and the country that offers all the arabs the same opportunities, support,and exposure as they offer to their own, unlike any other country. lebanon and the lebanese opens their hearts and homes for everyone they know nothing but welcome and love everyone.i thought only the enemies of lebanon hated us sooo much, but again this person could be one of the nationality of all the arabs common enemy. all my love and best wishes to the beautiful june and audry and the rest of all bassel's and patti's suportors. by the way this person is bumbusha.
to sana,
is Avril lebanon?!!!the fact that i hate avril does not mean i hate lebanon
plz do not include countries here ok. lebnan or tunis or masr or any other country akbar men eno someone put them or speak about them badly coz of program
i do like set mona, her son suhail, and fatma they r lebanese i think and i do like them.
plz don't make me mad does the fact i hate avril means i hate lebanon; goodness!!
u remind me of some politicians: "either u r with us or u r terrorist"my god i never tought that supporting avril will make u thrash poisonous words to me like that!!
to ur info: i like lebnen and lebanese except avril great!
next time never use countries to make someone look wrong or guilty ok!
law kenty bte7termy lebnen makenty jebty serto mshan mojarad bernamej!
and to say more if i were in khlod place when avril said "awlad el 7aram" i would etra3ha kaf mashafeto b hayatha w fel mel bernamej ezft
this time i replied to u sana only coz i like lebnen and all the other arab countries and coz i see it is not respectful to mention countires with bright civilization and history just for the sake of a mere program or for the sake of a person in that program. but be sure next time dear i won't bother my self to reply even if u insult me...
first i change my name to sana_k coz there is another person is using sana.
let me tell you that rola sa3ad is not doing this program as favour for the arab, it is money, money talk.
can u imagine if the program only for lebanesse, who will vote? who will care.
So this is not a charity business.
And again I dont like avril and I think khold is great person and for people is calling her bad word, i am saying, if you understand arabic well you can tell that she is the most educated mum in show, she always choose the right word, understand the questions quickly, give the right answer and made all of us say wowowoow.
This message to other sana.
did u hear avril when she said, allah y7mi libanon men kol el ghorabah
that is not good. many here in gulf area where i live was in chocked and said who is this person.
i am telling avril shaefeh 7alha
To sana_k
how are you..
sana_k .. sana had a point.. I don't know why people u always see what u want to see and u don't respect others.
me has a lebanese it hurt me to see people talking like that about our country because i never talk bad about others. i love and respect other country.
yes... if there is only lebanses who will vote. but we r saying.. that lebanon is the home.. of everyone.. and all the poeple who is there this what they feel.. because this what lebanon represent. represent the heart.
I don't know why people like to use racis.. in a point to say this show is lebanese they want lebanses. it is looser who talk like that. because if u look at all the show.. we only had one lebanese winner and the other one was from the arabic country that we r proud of them and they deserve all the best.
also one last point u said about avril reply. ghorab3a ... we all know who r the stranger..
don't try to put it for u.... in your own word.
because u know who she met by the word "stranger"
because u know exactly that khalijy people, all the arabic people r family for lebnon..and all
the arabic people use the word "stranger" for one country and we know all who.
so please don't mix things..
i respect your opnion sara_k but when u love your country it is painfull to see how others talk about it and say stuff out of true and fact
Let me just make one thing clear, I love Libanon, I love egypt which I hope one day to visit, and I love many other arab countries.
But you said Avril didnt mean us, then she should be more responsible when she say somthing like that. she is not young and this word is really big.
She will not stop me from visiting the country i love "lebanon" special visit I will do to Mrs. Mona, she is the best to represent the mum from lebanon.
But I will never like to visit avril, she is not a friendly person and i dont wish she won at the end, if she won, then there is somthing wrong, you dont know who people dont like her here and they are from different countries.
regards to all good arab
Sana,
When Avril made the comment about the strangers, she was directly speaking about the strangers in the refugee camp who have been attacking the Lebanese army. The reason she said that, was the sms was sent from Tripoli, which is in North Lebanon and very close to the refugee camp. So please make sure you know what you are talking about before you make these statements. Avril loves the Gulf and the Khaleej as much if not more than she loves Lebanon. Please pay attention not only to the messages, but who the senders are; it would explain a lot. Obviously the woman does not think this way, so no need to make her out into something she isn't just because you are unaware of geo-political issues. Ciao!
Sana_k , my last message regarding the "stranger" word was to you not the other Sana. Sorry Sana.
And by the way, those fighting the army in the camp are indeed strangers: Pakistanis and others.
Here's one proof about Kholood's lying.
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/perfect+bride/video/
x2ibaq_the-perfect-bridequotidienne-1007-p
This link (the bedroom scene in which Kholood is wearing red)shows the big blow out with Avril and the rest about the wife following the husband etc. but it proves that Kholood was telling Patti that if Avril doesn't tra3yee (not sensitive to) Patti's feelings then she doesn't like Patti. Kholood received several messages asking about why she is t7arred Patti against Avril and she denied it each time.
Banbusha...you sound like Jordanian or Tunisian who hates Lebanon & all Lebanese.In your case i would tell you, get the hell out of here.if you don't like the program, Mme Roula & LBC, u don't need to watch the show
You sound as vulgar as Khouloud
They don't put the camera on Wassim & Aya because they say nothing.Wassim is afraid to lie more, Aya is too young & uneducated to know what to say
the classiest ones are all Lebanese..let's face it...you jealous freak
Go Patty & Bassel..go Moayad...Gaby, Nidal & Avril...you are the best
Sana_k again,
Of course Mme. Rola is not doing this business for "charity" as you call it. We all live in capitalistic societies and the free market is encouraged in all Arab countries. No one is forcing people to vote and pay for each vote; people do so because they're impassioned enough about a favorite candidate, and they feel strongly enough to pay the $1 per vote. And yes, she is providing an amazing forum for young and talented Arabs to be exposed to the world and is giving them the only chance they would ever have to be seen on tv; it's basically the chance of a life time for many of them. How else would we have known the awesome Ahmed El Cherif, or the incredible Shaza and stunning Marwa, the genius of M7ammad 2amma7, and all the other Starac talents that we've been fortunate to see and hear over the past 4 years.
It pains me to read all this hostility against Lebanese, whether it's programming, candidates, the studio audience or otherwise. We as Arabs should all be proud of the amazing programs and shows that are offered to us whether through Lebanese channels or other Arab channels. We should be encouraging the entreperneurial spirit and the creativity and effort put forth for all our collective enjoyment.
So, please cut out the negative rhetoric about Mme. Rola, Lebanese, Lebanon, or any other sister Arab nations, etc....and let's not start calling Avril a racist because she's not a great communicator like Kholood. She definitely lacks in the speech category, but give me someone who can't speak well over someone who is conniving, conspiratorial and sneaky. 2allah Ma3kon...
Hi All,
We should all be rational in our judgment rather then biased to candidates of our country of origin. Accordingly, we ought to define our perfect couple according to the definition of a perfect Marriage. A Perfect Marriage is a relationship between two mature individuals and their families. It is based on respect, mutual understanding, trust, love, chemistry and the ability to compromise. Now, if we apply this to the couples, we will find that the definition best applies to Patty & Bassel. Gabby and Ayman need to work on their mutual understanding and their relationships with their families and the idea of compromising. Ayah & Wassiem have to work on almost every item. Ayah is more into the idea of marriage then Bassel. Their relationship lacks trust and this was obvious in many situations,
Finally, I would like to add that both Mme Khloud and Possy could win a prize as the most provocative people in the show. Adding to it their new definition of the word “Sari7a”(straight-forward) and “Qawiya” (have a strong personality) to mean being rude, discourteous, bad mannered, offensive and disrespectful. As a person of Egyptian origin I think Possy is the worst example of an educated Egyptian girl. God she is so vulgar, needs to learn how to act and dress like a lady, gets crazy when she sees food, and need to lose weight.
What the heck? I have read many of Bambusha's comments before and she never showed any socalled hatred or racism towards the Lebanese.
Could you please respect Lebanon more and not broach such a subject, especially in regards to such a silly program.
My mum loves Khouloud and dislikes Avril, and we are Lebanese. Ya3ni na2sou Lebanon.
For everyone, discuss the program and its silly participants and leave Lebanon out of it!
Cleopatra07, well said.
In watching the moms' sms night, I was struck by something Kholood said in response to a fan's message, something about her "thousands" of fans (2oloof) and I realized again what a huge ego this woman has. It's really all about her; she's definitely not in this for her son.
And can she answer any sms message in 10 words or less??? Good Grief!!! Each of her responses was like a paragraph. I guess she has a lot to say, being as she calls herself 7keemeh, zakiyeh, Qawieh, and Saree7ah. I'm sure I left out a few.
to banbusha
you think that the sms fadaho Avril, but I saw that it was Khuloud who was exposed the most with her lies & her gang...she also lied to ppl & denied turning Patty against Avril.Scroll down & see the video again...that vulagr lady is no smart character in my dictionary, she is a vulgar, unclassy, arrogant woman...I wish she & her son go home next
that street smart Khouloud is not smart at all....she repeats the same answers, the same lies.She is jealous of Avril & taking control of the weak girls in the show, turning everybody against each other
by the way i think that all the one who critize banbusha to hates lebanon and to being racist just because she hates madamae avril..well IM lebanese and i love madame kholoud and all the one who say bad things about her like sara audrey elissa and the other girls that i seriously think that they are all the same person appear to be lebanese!...and bambusha shu badik fiyon ana lebneniyeh ow continue to wirte here they only wants u to stop talking about madame avril because they wants paty and basel to win but i hope that u will continu and don't be intimidated by them..
mymy,
First of all, I'm Syrian,not Lebanese..sorry to burst your bubble...
second, I have the right to voice my opinion without being attacked by people like you. As much as you have the right to criticize Avaril and denounce her habits, I have the same privilege to point out the faults so visible in khalood's personality.
Third, I have never attacked Bambusha neither have I criticized her opinions. So don't insinuate that I have.
Fourth, Elissa and Sara just happen to share similar views as me. Hence, we are not the same person. There are people who think alike , you know. I'm sure other people share your views as well. Thus, there is no need for false theories claiming that the three names you mentioned are a disguise for one person.
Finally, get your facts straight and then come, talk to me.
I didn't mean for this message to be offensive or rude, but I was a bit annoyed with your remark. We need to stop making judgments and giving false statements on this site. It's not a healty way to discuss our differences.
HEy JUNE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SMS POSTINGS! I DON'T KNOW WHAT I"D DO WITHOUT YOU! THANKS!
THank you lala for the article as well!
I haven't posted anything in a while, or so it feels that way!
What I adore about Tante Avril is she isn't trying to get all the viewers on her side, like Kholoud! If people hate her she honestly doesn't care and doesn't talk to anyone about it! She's there for her son, otherwise she wouldnt' have come. Like Kholoud she wanted to come and wants the viewers to love her! She always talks to the girls about the mean SMS messages she gets! My theory is if you keep bringing up a certain topic (like i don't like so-and-so and u say it every 5 seconds it means u do like so-and-so)! So the messages distrub her because they are all mad at her and love Avril!
And when she says, "I will be her friend" My butt! She said she wouldn't go to Patti and Bassel's wedding because of Avril! I doubt her opnion of Avril changed in 2 weeks! When Avril said no I don't want to become friends, we know she's not trying to get everyone to cheer for her!
Wassim and Aya cannot win everyone! And I'll tell you why, he wants to stay all of a sudden for the $$$$$ and the trip! And he said he would leave if there were more serious couples! Has he told people to stop voting! I dont' think so! He's a liar like his mom! He shouldn't say things like that if he doesnt' mean theM! What if they win but don't get married? What happens? Seriously, Bassel and Patti have chemistry! At the beginning I doubted her affections but now I'm 110% sure they're meant for one another!
Now I love Gabbi a lot! No one get mad with me but this is just my theory! Let's start at the beginning...For the most part, everyone who likes Gabi likes Patti. So peoples votes get split between the two girls! Therefore, Aya gets the lead! I think since Gabi isn't too serious about Aymen she should leave, or no one should vote for her for the last prime! Because she wont' marry Aymen, but vote for Bassel and Patti becaause they have a chance! iF YOU DONT' understantd my theory or whatever, tell me and I'll try and explain it better!
VOTE 4 BASSEL!!!!!!!!!!!! DON"T FORGET!
Mymy,
You are definitely wrong about the fact that Audrey,Elissa and myself are one and the same person. You can tell by the way we write that we are not the same perosn.Is it so difficult to imagine that there can be differing opionions on this subject?
I also never attacked Bambusha, so please don't accuse people falsely. This is an open and democratic forum and it's okay, in fact normal, for us to disagree, as long as it is done respectfully and within dignified parameters. Just because someone supports a candidate does not automatically make that person of the same nationality; another false assumption. It would be like me saying that Bambusha, yourself and all Kholood fans are Jordanians. That's a ridiclous way of thinking, with all due respect. The Kholood fans see her as a strong and intelligent woman, and the non-admirers see her as conniving, manipulative and militantly conspiratorial. We can all agree to disagree, but let us not accuse each other falsely or make insulting comments about those with whom we don't agree.
PLEASE ANSWER ME
I need to know why my questions and many others which are in benefit of khold and her son never reach them?
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER ME?
That what made feel that there is somthing not right and that why i start to feel LBC is doing un even game.
I know some don't like kholod but you should know there are other who adore here, nothing of what said above change my or others mind? so I think we should respect each other opinion and not try to change it? we all see the same show, and watch them most of our time. We have different personality and that why we have different opinion. It has nothing to do with nationality. I am from original from lebanon, I like kholod and mona and I dont like avril. And I dont see khold as low class or vurgal as other said. even vurgal each has different way of expalining it, the most important I can see that she is well educated and that is clear to many.
From what I read above and from watching this program almost all the day, I can confirm that Kholod was not trying to make patty against avril, she was telling her, that avril should be more open and tell her everything. And by the way khold was not the only one who was saying that, gabi is the one who started it and kholod agreed with her, it was a topic that all was sharing, but people is saying kholold becasue they dont like her as I said above, and that is fine.
I see many picture of avril or heared her talking about others and that confirmed my opinion that she is not nice person. Look when she talks bad about lina or when she said the girls are not clean. Do you think this is good from someone you think is so nice. Why she has the right to say bad about others and when kholod or other mum give comments you said she is vulgar or tring to break couples.
and again wasim and ohters know about prize before they started the only surprise one is the trip. So dont judge wassim that bad. he is very nice man and he deserve all the best. Wassem and aya the only couple who never spoke bad or good about others, they are good with everyone, play, chatt, eat... etc with no bad feeling to any. And as you see even bassil who talks about everyone with patty agreed with other that WASEEM IS GREAT GUY. Even avril said so. I think that is enough prove that he is great.
again well down kholod. great couple aya and wassim, so cute togther
hello again first i want to say soory to sana-k i didn't realise that someone had the same name before i used it.as for the people who "answerd" me i want to thank you for doing so. to start i did not write my opinion based only on your feelings towards avriel at all it is much more than that, i have been observing for a while now. why you assuned that i like avreil, and because you didn't like her i'm going to say what i said, no not at all. its many many comments, statments and judgements that i read lead me to write what i wrote.i don't ever think that one person could represent a whole country, or even a city or a family for this matter.each one of us is a unique indvidual and thats what makes the world such diverse and special place. i never like to talk about countries been against each other, but sometimes when things get too much i feel it's important to defend my country. i want to be very clear i love all people regardless of their nationalty, race ,color or religion, because they God's creations.the way some pepole wrote did not surprise me at all, having kholood as their idol explain things. where hurting, manipulating, ploting,liying,and disrecpecting others are the rules. a big thank you to audery, sara, nabil, elissa,june,laura and the beautiful cleopatra07.
believe me when I say I dont hate any of the mum.
when I hear avril laugh her, natural laugh, I say how sweet, but I do understand that she never been outside her house, she didnt meet many people in different situation, she is not working mum, that is why she believe everything, so i think the messages sent to her which was not clear of what excatly khold said or did to her, make her think that kholod is evil
I wish that if someone send messages to the mum say excalty what the other did or say and leave to the mum to judge. becasue just say, becarefull, or stay away, (like some to avril about lina and poussy) and we all know they did nothing wrong or bad to avril they like her. these remarks made her hate them or suspect that they are not honest.
please enough is enough leave the mum have great time in their last weeks, let them enjoy their time togther, they are under too much stress, even kholod who is strong start to feel the stress.
and thank you all
one more thing before we close this topic, it was one only incident and it took us days to talk about.
When avril got mad and left the group, they were all in chocked of her reaction. She took it too personal, gabi was in great chock
and there when gabi and kholod start to say, why she is mad, and then said to patty if in one issue she refuse to discuss and give her final word. How you will solve other problems in your life, and that you should talk to her and open all subject.
Now what is wrong with what kholod said, it is clear and straight forward. Why avril fan make a big issue out of it and send many messages to avril saying be careful from kholod.
If patty really believe that kholod was after her all time to make her leave bassil, she would have said so, but no, it was the only time they discuss a topic together. They hardly speak to each other, so how come that kholod is always telling patty to stay away from bassil or avril.
I think the people who sent messages to avril behind all the problem between kholod and avril otherwise they will be fine together.
to S.M.S and MYMY
thank u for ur nice word and for ur understanding. i never talked about countries and i ll never do i love lebanon whatever "others" say..who i am to speak about countries
thank god there are some people who understood my comment that it has nothing to do with lebanon and that even from my previous comments as S.M.S said i never been against Lebanon or anyother countries. countires are something sacred for me.
to Audrey
every one has a view point to be respected i come here not to criticize avril lovers but to criticize avril herself..i don't know why all this criticism for me i don't like Avril what's the problem. for example u don't like Kholod and u have the extreme right to express urself. this is a forum every one has to express his opinion freely. by the way my friend like Avril she finds her funny and also likes khlod; it is her viewpoint and i never argued with her concerning this.
to be frank, what makes me mad here is that whenever someone writes something against Avril, some kind of 4 people write always here come to attack him/her! but why?? every one has his right to write whatever he/she wants
to Nabil and 'others'
there is a proverb that i apply in ur case:
"never deal with an idiot, they drag you to their level. then, they beat u with their experience"
PEACE
Mymy I am ONE PERSON! I have a life, surprisingly! I don't sit on my computer all day pretending to be 3 different people! Plus I don't write as well as Audrey and Sara!
How can you accuse me of saying anything to Bambusha! I even skipped that message I think! So i'm kind of lost in the discussion! Plus I don't answer to Bambusha's responces because she said she doesn't like me and won't speak to me!
I love Bassel, but doesnt' mean that just because he says Wassim is a great guy doesn't mean I have to think the same! Unlike others who once they side with one person they agree with everything they do or say. A Great GUy doesn't question an older ladies mental break downs in front of millions! What businness is it of his? Wassim may be a wonderful man in a few years, but now I can't help but see him as a growing boy! What kind of mother would leave their 6 year old son for a TV show? I bet Tante Avril would never do that!
to Elissa,
i never said i don't like u never and why shall i hate ?! i told u i won't answer ur mails coz i felt we don't understand each other though we...
and by the way last time, when u decided to withdraw from this forum coz u said u r tired from those who write comments here, i felt like it is because of me..many asked you to come back and me too i wanted to send u asking u back but i was ashamed may be i feared u won't answer me coz i asked u to do so. i want to see ur comments here eventhough we don't agree..
mel akher Elissa, i want this forum to gain friends not enemies unless someone hurt me and sara7a u didn't hurt me...
PEACE
Please WALEG we want the photo and the vedio for Ahmad Sherif
Bambusha,
I have no idea why you addressed me, because I have not criticized neither have I attacked you. Thus, I don't need the " everyone has the right to express their views" speech. I'm very well aware of the need for a democratic discussion, and I'm constantly promoting a civilized one. Honestly, I do not care if you do not fancy avaril or if you dislike her actions and my mission in life is not to convert those avaril-haters into avaril-lovers. My sole interest on this site is to share some of my views and opinions regarding this show.
I have never stated that you disliked Lebanon, and I personally do not care if you do or you do not. I don't consider myself a nationalistic person, and I would never consider an entertaining show an actual representation of a nation.
Please, address those who have attacked you not me.
I just a promo on lbci.. and they said 6 girls left..
ayah
gabi
patty
fatmeh
poussy
lina..
they kep fatmeh name..
i think she will be back.. i am note sure but her name was mention. i think she will be back on friday...
take care
Wow too many things happening, i haven't been here for a few days.
That comment of bambusha which u ppl translated as hatred of lebanese, its not hatred. It justbeing pissed off with something called Avril, end of.
Lke me, today Avril was talking badly about oneof the girls and no one sends sms about that.
Some ppl are just biased.
But anyway, end of topic i don't think bambusha meant hatred.
And ppl, don't take ppls opinions of avril and kholoud and then be negative towards theperson who is making that comment. Lets just quit being offensive to each other because of our opinions. I mean we are free, we can argue back with evidence. But not offensive to the actual person.
OK, end of hatred and we are all friends here. Make LOVE, Not WAR.
June shoukran habibtey inti keman.
And for ur questions, i haven't been watching the 24hr chnl a lot cause i have been out n' about.
Pati and Avril are speaking and i realy do not know about the big move, i saw a bit on the dailies but i haven't heard anything about it.
Today, she was talking negatively about a girl and was ngry, it was something like she's always around pati and bassel. Something like that, i came on the end. But Aya came and this week Aya is going to get nomnated by bassel as well. Avril goes to aya she'll nominate her because she likes her. What the heck?
And evryone who said thank you are more than welcome.
Sana k i agree with u, not all the msgs get shown which is even more piss taking. And its so annyoing when control repeats the questions when there are other msgs which never get displayed. they put the false ones and repeat them while some say the truth and never show up.
And guys about the prize, i don't think the prize gets given until the couple gets married. Say pousy got the highest votes in thefinal, it would go to the second girl. Cause pousy hasn't got a man. So its not just winning but getting married.
It would b funny if pousy or lina got the highest. I loved the way last time they didn't get nominated and they're the single ones. These things about the final and sutff i heard off pousy not the prime, so i'm assuming she was correct (she sounded reasonable).
For Khoulud’s lovers, she is a big liar, evil, vicious, impolite, classless, nobody…..
She remind me the worst thing that you can find in some body the provocation, she thinks that she is cute, GOD, look at her eyes in the morning, the only think that she has is her hair, Khoulud has nonsense in her life, it is bad when you have the objective to hurt people when you talk, the harassment is a crime in many societies, stop the crap that she is an Arabic woman, she really showed the worst thing that we have in Arabic societies, talking about each other, pushing people to hate each other, she made a gang of Lina(Barbie) + Boussy (Nasty name+ Harrat Al3awaniss) + Aya (fat cow + most stupid girl I have never seen) and she was lethally asking them to destroy couples!!!! She thinks that she is a coach; I really understand now why people in the Arabic world love their presidents or kings…..you guys believe in lies.
About Aya+ Wassim: did some body watch the S.M.S night? Wassim was not looking at Aya at all, he was like: get the hell far away from me. Please give me one reason why Wassim should be in love with Aya: First she looks bad he can have much better, she already kissed him (bouche a bouche, when she was with out side), she said that she loves him after one week….Do you have brines, Wassim comes from Jordan, his name is not Jack, he wants a girl like his sister with the veil and nobody touch her before even him….
P.S I am not from Lebanon, I believe in each place you have the good (Bassel+Patty) and the bad (Khoulud) and the ugly (Aya+ Wassim).
Good Luck Bassel+ Patty: you look so nice and classy both of you guys.
well said Ilham
the most respectable guy is Moayad, couple Patty & Bassel.Avril may not be good at answering or talking sense, but she is no evil like Khouloud who is a disgrace for the Jordanian women
Gaby is smart & classy, but Ayman is a jerk
I wonder what Poussycat & her dog Lina are still doing in the show
Thx, Nabil.
By the way, let me show you how Koulud’s gang is fake, do you remember when they were talking about: if you have a girl do you let her travel by her self to study abroad, Boussy was making some nonsense, ignorant comments: OH I have to go with my daughter to study in a foreign country, come on, she wants a Visa.
She said: we have every thing in our country: if you have every thing in you country why did you come to Lebanon to look for a husband????? We did never hear about an Arabic University mentioned even in 1000 rank in the world: guys I was student in an Arabic country I went to Europe, Arabic student were not that great, especially guys coming from Egypt (They don’t know even how to speak English, they study it since they are young…Boussy is a good example: she studied “BissBiss” As “Adil Imam” say)
Please just explain to me may be I am simple: how can your parents send you to a program to look for a husband, and will not send you to study!!!! Come on this does not make sense…
For people who live in Arabic countries, if you have the opportunities to go outside finish your study don’t hesitate, it is a wonderful experience…
If Boussy is your mother: please kill her before. Thx
if Khouloud is that conservative, how would she let her son marry a girl who kisses him on the mouth first & tell him she loves him from day 1?
That woman is fake!
the best, classiest couple is Bassel & Patty.I would have liked to see Moayad win, he is the best prepared to get married. Lina is stupid not to get him, maybe because his mother has said:Lina, no no , never
Ilham,
I had the chance to talk with some high school girls in Marrakesh, they were so brilliantly eloquent, confident and educated...you may be living in the west or you had the opportunity to live next a community college somewhere...but truth be told I wasn't able to finish reading your post.
No offense.
My 2 cents:
How many Arabic innovations we have until now? I have never heard about an Arabic guy in Arabic country did some thing in science or…
We are the third world, it is a fact, you know why? Because we have a poor system of education, the education and technology are not together…
Any way I have just to tell you I studied Applied /math, I was not in a community college, I was in good university and I got a good job in US: Alhamdolilah.
I did not stay in my country!
to Ilham,
The greatest thing you did in your life is leaving your country because neither your country or the Arab world would be ever proud of such an ignorant person like you who doesn't know anything about the arabic countries!!!
Just make some search - quick one - and learn how many scientist and and and in the arab world ...
as for the arab world education system, it differs from one arab country to the other but i can assure you that any student can point where his country on the map, something that the students where u live failed to do with more than 80% as percentage of who failed ...
before attacking your own country and the arab world, learn about it ... the arab world is not your small village or even the city and the neighbour where you were raised!!
just read your other comment about Najd, i agree with u speaking about one person not a whole country.
i just wonder why the LBC choose such a person from Tunisia ... or it seems he was one of the rare tunisians that applied to such stupid show!!!
I doubt any civilized well educated family from any country in the arab world wld think of applying to such a tv show! our girls in the arab world worth a loooooooot than such a show!
Lala,
I've sent many sms messages as well both in support of Bassel & Patti, and criticizing Kholood's actions, and none of my messages have ever been shown. So, I don't think LBC necessarily screens out certain messages according to a pre-determined agenda. It makes me crazy too, because as you said, some messages get pretty much repeated over and over and it gets boring. I think they just randomly select the messages and I don't believe there's a conspiracy any where. Ciao!
Cupecake, and others:
I am sorry if I hurt you; let me tell you some thing: All the Arabic guys that you are so happy to find in Google finished their studies out side of their countries. You know most Arabic countries have a big percent of their population can not read and write, the only exception of that is Palestine.
How many north African guy try to get out of his country by dieing in the Mediterranean,…you know why because some of them went to college and spend four years and after they could not get a job because their education is not adequate, or their parent don’t have money…
Did you see Ayman how is desperate to get out from Tunisia, by the way last time I heard Ayamn he said”tu me rends foule de toi!!!” In Tunisia, French is very important especially for a guy who is “soit disant” working in Tourism….
Don’t get it as ignorant person, the Arabic countries are gone since all governor are so cheap and so ignorant, they make you believe that every body out side is your enemies,
Look what happening in Iraq, Palestine, Egypt(Last time I saw in ALjazeera, people can not find water), Morocco, Algeria (they have all the gas, people have all the misery), Arabic Golf instead to help people in other Arabic countries to get a good education or health system they are opening channels for “Hishik bishik” …….
Don’t talk about Arabic countries, because when I think about them I feel so bad for those simple people, they can not do any thing!!!!
Sara,
Since you live in the US, you have been able to send SMS messages? Do you mind sharing with me how you are doing it? Thanks!!
About the Arab education system discussion: Since I have not lived in the Middle East, I cannot lead a discussion about the values and virtues of the curriculum currently established in the Arab world. However, since I am acquainted with the history of the region, I have enough confidence to vouch for its generation of outstanding scientists,mathematicians, philosphers, and physicians who have profoundly contributed to our current understanding of the world. Without the work of those Arab geniouses, we would not have been introduced to important fields such as Algebra. The Arab mind has significantly shaped the world when the West was submerged into darkness. Numerous discoveries made by the Arab/Muslim scientist have been overlooked by the Western textbooks, which are mostly written by the White man. Go figure!
Undoubtedly, the Arab mind is capable of producing impressive scientific discoveries and theories. Alas, the lack of resources and finances, which are abundant in the Western world, have slowed the progress toward achieving those goals in the Arab world.
Ilham,
did u have one walk where you are living now! at least we don't have people sleeping in the streets, we can still walk safely at night while you can't ... governor are governor since forever ... some are good, some are bad ... the problem is most of the time with people not with governments ... education alone is not enough if you don't bother to work on yourself... enough said .. all this have nothing to do with the 8th prime!
Ilham,
It seems you are mixing education with training. They are two different matters.
You are the Math applied graduate but I found little or no logical liaison between all the different subjects you run through in your short post.
Where you are living right now there is a teacher who is making $30000 a year is applying in Sacks Fifth or Bloomingdale stores to sell shoes, after a short 2 to 3 weeks training s/he will be making $40000 a year. Could your reasoning justify this fact? I doubt it.
It's not the responsibility of any University or School to find you a job but to provide a learning platform for companies to pick and choose among a pool of potential employees and train them based on their own needs.
Education is a different subject than training/jobs...so many illiterate people are brilliant in their trade line...a construction worker who can't write his name could make 2 times more than a teacher... And be happily living in Algeria, Mexico or US.
A lot of Arab countries education systems are great if only economic conditions be improved more.
Things may look very clear...on the surface.
I think I surpassed my 2 cents limits...I'm hoping you don't mind.
Cupcake:
I find good news that you will not say I am a bad Arabic person, the first Arabic university is: AMERICAN UN IVESITY OF BEIRUT, the world rank: 1295 (Is the statistic of 2007, by the way all the Israeli universities are on top 500) the funniest thing even our first world rank university is: American, “La hawle wala kowata ila beallah”
http://www.webometrics.info/top100_continent.asp?cont=meast
I really like Bassel now it makes sense for me; he comes from a top Arabic University.
By the way I am not talking about the past, I am talking about the Arabic world now…
Don’t believe that crap of you can walk safe, it is not true, don’t it!
Here it is really safe, believe me!
About the Prime 8: some body did not like what I said about Khoulud and her gang, now I am “3adowa lal3arab” funny!
what the hell am i missing out on her man?
nabil
u talk a lot of bs, u jst wanna translate things and change pples words to suite ur biased and hater comments towards every1 who is againest pati and bassal and stupid aviral. u give me a lot of f up jokes bambusha did not insult once lebanonis and if she did i would have been the first to pick out on it as i am a pure lebanonis and i would except anything but some1 to involve insult on countries in their comments.
i hate the fact that pple are to blind to see the truth and jst chat so much sht, but thts y satan exessed in our world, in order to start conflicat between ppl and waste their time.
lbc are f up cheaters i hate them, is sooooooo clear that patio and bassal are the winner beside of them showing to much of their ugly face on tv, the words thy say on the dailies jst make it so clear. for example yesterday rola on the dailies she was like oh will the couples (aya and wassim - gabi and ayman)stay together or they ganna break up, y those 2 couples how abut pati and bassal is like we r sure thy aint ganna break up never.
and that pati lol she nominated wassim coz he said he aint ganna marry now, lol wat a stupid reasons, wat is it got to do with her whether he is ganna get married or not, it's not like she is ganna get married to bassal any sooner.
and aviral she needs some one to pull her down to earth as she is flying to high right now and inshallah she is ganna fall badly and i couldnt care less if she breaks her nick. is like she is the right and no 1 else bs. she is happy whn ppl send her msg saying kholoud is talking behind her back and trying to break bassal and pati the audience are right and not lying but whn it comes her trun she doesnt talk behind her back lol. 24/24 she is talking abut kholoud, jst yesterday she was talking abut kholouds personal live, wat is got to do with her such a btch, she has no respect. she plays a dirt game, whn she talks she never talk to the person she is sitting with all her talk are aimed to the audience. least time she had argument with gabi she said that the conversation was abut kuwait and how kholoud and gabi was saying kuwait dont have jobs and basically thy r not good, that was political staff she should be a president for bs talkers.
Audrey,
You can send SMS messages from the US by going to the following link:
http://www.lbcgroup.tv/theperfectbride/
then click on the top banner in red, where it says submit your message. You will then be prompted to enter a credit card number and you can decide how much money to put in. Say you put in for $10, then you have ten points. Each SMS message cost $1 and each vote (use onl, ine voting) is also $1. You can also use the links on the far left of your screen (Voting, Forum, etc.) The Forum link will take you to different subject to chat about regarding the show, and this part is free and you can write as much or as little as you wish. SMS messages are limited to a certain number of characters so we can't be as eloquent as we would wish to be :(
Let me know if you have trouble with it and I can walk you through it.
Have fun.
Thanks a bunch Sara!!!! I was unaware of the fact that we could actually send SMS messages from the States. I'm glad I asked you!!!
Thanks again!
Max,
You're getting pretty angry over a show that's meant to be entertaining. It's fun to disagree with each other and get on this site to post pro and con messages about our favorite candidates and to critique those we don't care for. But you seem to be taking things a bit too seriously; don't you think it's rather extreme for you to be wishing that Avril breaks her neck??? And calling people insulting names like that, just because you favor others? It makes me so concerned that some of the people here can get so violent over a game show!!! Maybe that's why you like Kholood; you identify with her militant style. I don't even wish to address your points because they don't make sense, and they are not stated in a dignified manner. Please don't insult these people; they're all someone's mom, sister, daugher, wife, etc... It's just a GAME SHOW!!!!! Ya lateef!
Waleg, How old are the people who post here? Like 10-12??
bonjour ilham,
je veux juste vous dire que vous avez raison dans tout ce que vous disez, le fait qu'on est arabe et on vit dans un pays arabe ne doit pas nous empêcher de dire la vérité bien qu'elle soit amère.
et je trouve ce que vous dites bien vrai et raisonable, c'est vrai que le gouvernement ne nous doit pas forcément de trouver un travail, mais ils doivent etre honnet et servir leur pays et non pas voler leur propre peuple.
très grand bonjour et beaucoup de respect à audrey, elissa, sara, et bien sure à vous ilham.
bisou
Bonjour Shery:
Merci, tu es adorable. Pour moi defendre mon pays. c.a.d defendre mes parents et les gens que j aime mais le systeme je le deteste, il detruit les gens et ne laisse rien, meme les reves dans les pays Arabe, t as pas le droit de rever, Allah y3in Alnass.
Merci encore une fois.
Gros Bisous
max i really like your comment u make a big sense when u said what rola said in the dailies it's true madame rola think that we are all full and that we can not see her game.
Hello All,
I only wrote one comment once but I keep coming on waleg to read the comments and see all the different views of people and to know a little bit what's new since I cant watch the show due to work...
To Ilham
"Lina(Barbie) + Boussy (Nasty name+ Harrat Al3awaniss) + Aya (fat cow + most stupid girl I have never seen)...." and there is even more, I think you all read it!
First of all, you have to know in case you "forget it" here it's a civilised forum and we are here to talk and say our opinion in a respectful way and saying things that's really meaningfull...
Secondly, since I've lived all my life in North America, I cannot talk about the education system of Middle East but I can tell you that I'm sure there is a lot of well educated Arabic persons, even though the Universities are not ranked in the top 1000. We cannot put everybody in the same box!
Our problem in Middle East is that we need to know and learn especially to always stick together. We need to make the next generation and raise our children to not make differences cuz we have different accents and stick together cuz nobody would understand us more than ourselves.
To Sara,
it is strange that you commented only on Max's point of view and saying that he's taking too seriously the show while Ilham insults very badly all the girl candidates...
Secondly, if Max is saying is opinion he or she is free to express himself/herself the way he/she want it... "maybe" he's tired from seeing how the game is turning and things could be unfair for certain people in the show and also how things could change so fastly due to some little argument or word said without really meaning it or knowing that it could become such a big thing and it beeing repeated over and over again by the directors of the show...
This is reality TV you'r stuck in a place 24 on 24 and you're deconnected from the real world and you dont have any contact from outside so after some time you forget about cameras,about being watch, etc.
Honestly, I'm not in either Patti's side or Aya's side cuz after all it's all a game and all the candidates are here to get noticed and to challenge themselves and especially living a one life experience!
And, like I said before we cannot say that any couple of the show could get married or any of them found the "right" person that suits them the most since they didnt even see the way they live and the girls dont even know what their parents really think of their choices, if they approve it or not!
In everyday life that's how you see the real person and how their reaction to different situation, and if the groom' family will connect with the bride's family...
In fact, there is a lot of issues that come not only love.
In my opinion, everything starts at the end of the show!
Good luck and keep a good atmosphere in the forum and enjoy summe :o) that's the best thing to do!!!
Bambusha I hope I didn't offend you, I have nothing against you.
Does anyone agree with me, with the fact that Gabi is staying just makes things worse for Patti?
Hey All,
Ilham, I loved your post re Possy. God it was so funny.
I still think and hope for Mme Avril to continue to ignore, the extremely provocative, Mme Khloud and try her best to stay calm. I myself was very provoked by the way Mme Khloud kept laughing during the SMS session. I know that she is concealing her anger behind her hysterical laughter.
I hate listening to Mme Khloud talk about herself, her wonderful qualities, and her terrible quote “Ya Gabl ma yahzek ree7.” I’ve never witnessed her mention her family or that she misses them. She is a liar ‘cause we all heard her trying to turn Patty against Mme Avril & Bassel. I was not surprised that Patty was trying to be nice and polite as she always is and didn’t confront Mme Khloud.
I really think Mme Khloud is in the show for herself and not her son. I vote her and Possy as the most provocative, rude, discourteous, vulgar and disrespectful women in the M.E.
Diana:
When those guys came to perfect bride, thier life became public, I have the right to criticize insulte say what ever I want, you know they come to my home I did not go to Koulud home's to insulte here.
I did not insulte any body in the forum, but when the trash come to my TV I have the right to say what ever I want, I forgot as Koulud say "Ma Yasih Ela Sahihe"
hello everyone.this is the first time i post in this forum but i have been reading all the comments for a long time.what i find very interesting is how this show provoks older and more mature people to voice their opinions and that prouves that the subject is close to most people, unlike other reality tv shows.
relationships and marriage are the favorite topic for most people no matter who they are. love usually is something that makes people feel good, i think it gives them hope , that's why we have books, movies, songs about love. love is the most beautiful and prescious blessing from God.
the people in this show came from different backgrounds and thats what makes us the viewers so interested, we analyse and compare and unfortunatly sometimes judge them. the simple idea behind the show is to see if it is possible for two people to meet and fall in love and get married in such short time, and in order to do so they need to have all the essential elements to embarc in such important and personal experince. it is obvious to everyone who is ready and well prepared to get married. their age, their level of maturity, their financial situation, and first and foremost their genuine love for each other, the strong chemistry, and natural understanding of each other, also their nature that seems to be what one of them requires from the other. in a relativly short time they gained each others trust and that is the most important condition in a successful relationship, and that trust goes far more beyond words as we have been wittnessing. i find very interesting the people who say that so and so should win or so and so is in love and should get married despite that we all saw how things were developing. as if it is another game or competion, not paying attention that there is a life time involved in this. all my love and best wishes to everone, and i'll let you all guss who are these people i neant. hoping to be answerd form you please. thank you.
Thank you My 2 and Audrey
Ilham
I would like to add my own experience to this valued conversation.
I did my high school in Arabic country, excuse me if my English is not as good as you all.
I am doing great in my job where I started from the scratch as clerk and now I am holding very good position in one of the leading company where I live. (as you see who word hard get rewarded).
I wanted the best for my children, so I sent them to English speaking school. I was so happy to see them doing well.
My 2 daughters did graduate from US with high GPA, they were on honor list, and now my son started his study at USA also.
After my daughters graduated, they returned back, we are not against studying abroad and learn the best from others, but in our opinion, if everyone studied outside and never come back, then how can we help our society.
Don't you hear about the very important and famous people form USA, they bring their money and experience to help the poor. If they are doing this, then whey we don’t give the same, it is our country and our people.
Don’t tell me that, our country is all bad, we leave very well and decent life. But I can tell from your way, that you didn’t visit any Arabic country for long, consider this as invitation to give a visit to say Lebanon or my country Jordan or any other lovely Arabian gulf countries and you will be surprised to see how well educated the people and almost they have everything. There is no ideal country in the world yet.
You know I do watch this programme 24/24, and may be you didnt see Avril when she keep talking and talking about everyone and specially kholod.
She like to do that to one person at a time so she can talk and no one interpet her.
She is trying from yesterday to convince Aya that she is doing a big mistake and alos she is trying with poussy so she will be in her side.
She is realy funny lady.
Today at 3:30 wassim father called and give his blessing on Aya and many message arrive to congratuate them, I am happy for this lovely couple. Good that Aya didn't listen to Avril and she told her I dont care I love Wassim.
Sana-K,
No apologies needed! your English is great!
I have to make an addendum to your constructive argument. Although Arab citizens who seek education in the West have a priority to return to their homelands in order to benefit their cultures with the new experiences and knowledge that they have attained, I believe that there are many Arabs who take up residence in the West have been able to dedicate their time, efforts, and passion into helping their native countries. Basically, you do not have to return back to your home country to help it. I know many Arabs who live abroad have contributed to their birth countries by supplying them with various resources such as monetary donations and funds. Many Arabs have established organization dedicated to serving the need of the underprivileged populations living in the Middle East. In fact, they have made terribly great contributions that have immensely improved certain condition in various disadvantaged nations in that region of the world. In addition, I also believe there is a need for a growing educated, Arab community in the West that can influence foreign governmental policies and regulations in favor of the Mid-East region. By improving our status in the West, we can hold influential positions that could be utilized toward improving the current, critical status of the Arab world. I'm very hopeful!
Ilham,
Well if it bothers you this much you could just turn off for a while the TV when it becomes annoying for you cuz we are not here to insult the candidates but like I said before giving our point of view with respect. By the way, when you use bad words to describe anybody that doesnt make more "credible"...
but unfornately that's how the show want us to react by dividing and making two side's and adding more tension than there is!
I dont know what Kholoud says or what proverb she uses but all I can tell you is just to be more intelligent than her and talk in a decent way...
Personnellement,je ne suis pas contre toi, mais je trouve dommage de voir que même dans une émission de télévision, les Arabes ont toujours tendance à juger d'une manière irrespectueuse les gens. Ils ont une intolérance incroyable!
Je trouve également que même si la personne peut parfois dépasser les limites et que ça devient un peu choquant à regarder nous avons pas le droit de manquer de respect, mais nous pouvons décrire ce qu'on a pas aimé et l'appuyer par des faits et exemples sans tomber dans l'impolitesse!
Sur ce, je te souhaite une belle journée ou soirée! :o)
P.S: Mira I totally agree with you,
what you said about love was so right, there's a lot of things that comes along with it :o)
Audrey
I agree totatly with you. Let's just say that the most important that we should all do our best to help the human no matter where he lives and what is his nationality.
I love US, I was there with my husband when he was studying and I had my first daughter there who is married from american guy and live in USA.
May be I am happy for Wassim and Aya, because they represent part of my life. I was in love when I was so young and got married and stayed with my husband until he graduated and raised a beautiful family.
What I am trying to say, that if love is there, dont be afraid, love is great. We both work hard, our family help us at the start and now it is our turn to take care of them and we are happy to do so.
And that take me to another perosn, kholod, she also got married when she was young, she worked hard with her husband and now they are doing great, that what she told. And may be that is the different between her and Avril, Avril never been out and face different type of people.
Diana you are right we should give respect to the participants and to the people who is reading these comments.
By the way, all of the people in the show talk about each other, may be wasim the only guy I didnt hear him talking about anyone.
girls, mum and guys talk about each other behind their back, but aren't we all talk????
But I believe they all are nice but that is the life.
Thank you Sana_k and by the way don't appologize at all for your english cuz it's very good!
I agree also with you for understanding and knowing why Avril and Kholoud have different views and mentality.
That shows you are thinking further before judging fastly :)
All I wanna say is that we cannot judge the person by their appearance or the way they react and answer some questions cuz we have to respect and especially understand from what background they are coming from and the way they were educated and I could continue on and on but I think you understood what I meant!
Sorry for repeating myself but for me respect is something very important in my life!
Thank you and enjoy yourself :o)
i totally agree with you sana.k..madame kholoud te3bit bi 7ayeta she work hard for her kids but madame avril she always depends on her husband it's not bad also but she has a different mentality but the bad thing on her is that she can't understand madame kholoud she thinks that she always right and that's bother lot of people but i like madame avril eno el mara hik 3eshit bas she has to learn to face different people like u said and im sure she will become a greater person..and i really want aya and wassim to win but good luck for the other one also in their real life if they still together after the program..
Sana_k:
I am so happy for you and I appreciate Arabic people when they do well all over the world.
When I am talking about the education system or the health system, I am talking about the whole system in the Arabic world, don’t tell me that Arabic people are doing well, I am sorry to say that most Arabic people are struggling it is a truth. I am not talking when I go for a vacation and I see some people driving cars or having nice homes, what about the majority of people? They are in a bad shape. In many Arabic countries we don’t have the middle class any more that is a disaster because the old middle class becoming poor now. You are talking about exporting experience from here to our countries, the problem we need the work from inside not outside, outside will help a little bit not much.
By the way ask your daughters, what they teach them in college, especially if they are in science, they will teach them what the companies need, if you have a major in history you may struggle to get a job but in science noway, but in the Arabic countries and I am talking about the public school, no computers, most good teacher you have to catch them home (private lesson) what if your parents can not pay and your family has seven or height kids!!! By the way in some Arabic countries they are changing the programs every year some times they put you study in Arabic, they change to French or to English and of course the kids are already lost…
About the Arabic golf, it is wonderful to have a good building and nice cars but you know that until now those countries are third world, they are not investing in technology and this will be a big problem because the scientist say that the oil will be gone in 25 years, what those “Khalijee ” will leave to their kids: the misery.
P.S I don’t know much about Lebanon but last time I saw aljazeera I was so surprise, they still did not build much after last year war, the bad thing, they are busy fighting who will be in charge. (they don’t care about people misery: The Arabic System is evil)
Pour toi Diana:
J’ai le droit de regarder ce que je veux, par contre comment vous encouragez Khoulud qui insulte les gens (elle a dit sur Fatima « Maslahjiya and Kadaba »), et moi quand je fais la même chose tu dis, ce n est pas bien. Moi sincèrement je m en fou de ce programe, et mes insulte je les sens « wallah » j ai l impression que ces gens mérite ce que je dit sur eux, tu vois la provocation n est pas bonne, mais dans ce programme il y a beaucoup de gens qui font que provoquer les autres, laisse moi aussi provoquer :Khoulud Lover’s: : that we can have fun, the only thing that we want is to have fun…You agree ?
Diana:
I forgot, “perfect bride” is not the “Koran” or the “Bible” or…, we have the right to say what ever we want, the good news we are in internet and we have the freedom of speech.
If you understand what “Najd” said when he was up set, you will call those people all kind of names, I was choked.
I have a questions, how many of you beleive that Wassim loves Aya?
Ilham,
Are you living in Utopia!!!!!!!!!!!??!!! because that what it seems when you are commenting, every country on earth rich or poor has its problems, cons and pros ... you are talking about schools and health .. etc in the arab world as if perfect schools exists all over the USA or Europe!! if you are happy there, enjoy it and stop critisizng our countries, we ARE happy in our countries in the Arab world.
Aren't you happy girls and boys in the gulf, middle east and north africa, aren't you proud with even the small things in your country??
Thank god even a poor uneducated person in the arab world knows whats going on in the world while YOU ... you over intgrated in the US community 'which u dont belong to' and you became of those lots of US people that has nothing to do with whats gng on in the world!!
Ilham, our countries are different and challenging , if you really seek success in any country in the Arab world you will have it big time.
In jordan the computer is essential in education, I know that my nephew can check his homework and grades through internet, and computer is tax free. Many in jordan have computers now. In the alst statistics Jordan and Tunis are the highest in number of educated people.
In arabian gulf, life here is not as you imagine, even though there is alot work the arab countries have to do, but believe me it is not as black picture as you see it.
I know that in jordan the nubmer of middle class are 55%. that is not great but it is not bad too. we have public school and hospital and I dont have to talk about how good are these two system in jordan it is very puplar amoung the arab countries. Please try to read more and listen to other parties about our countries rather than one resources, so you can have a complete picture and then judget. And again you are welcome to visit jordan and you dont have to go to tourist places go and visit people and see how they life. I am so proud of my country but that dosent mean I dont like other countries, I love USA, Lebanon, some arabian gulf countries, and as I said before I wish to visit egypt soon, they said there is nice places there
I can direct you to very good sites where you can get an accurate information about status of our countries.
Cupcake:
Some people in Utopia think they are in better shape than you, you see you are blaming me the way how I look to the Arabic world and you are doing the same by looking to Utopia.
Anyway, if you want to convince me how the Arabic world is doing great convince me with numbers not just general statement or calling me names that not a way how we discussed. You are doing like those ignorant people who when you tell them some thing, they say you are not Arabic or you are not Moslem, me I am talking about people experiences. You are doing like the Arabic new fashion: dictatorship or Iraq civil war.
Arabic People ARE STRUGGLING believe it or not, but if your parents are from the system that is different: those people are doing very well.
Sana_k:
Thank you very much for your invitation, I appreciate it, you also you are welcome to my Arabic country you will love my home….
You did not get my point, the Arabic world will stay third world since they don’t change their system, most of them depend of the money that their immigrant bring of outside or Tourism or international helps, look at Malaysia which is a moderate Moslem country and have many companies, the Japanese are putting a lot of money in technology in Malaysia, it is a good democracy too.
By the way when Arabic student come here, it is hard for them because in their countries they teach them a lot things that they don’t need most of the time, in order to make a good program that will help every body.
Wassinm doesn't love Aya a bit.He & his mom are so hypocrit & liars.They said the dad gave his blessing to make the relationship look perfect & cash the prize.He & Khouloud make fun of Aya.She deserves Moayad better.
How can Aya love him when he said: for those prizes, now I'll marry her.That was a slap in the face
Sana k where do u live in jordan, i might go Amman soon.
All i can say is i love jordan, and i love lebanon despite i haven't visited lebanon yet. I might go there as well for a few days. But i live in london and i'm dying to go to jordan and have pizza from dominos and pizza hut. I tried everywhere, the posh n' cheap and no one does good pizzas as dominos or pizza hut in jordan. I am not joking.
And the kebab, i feel like i'm at back home baghdad.
Sorry i'm right now hungry but lets go back to education.
I understand ilham's viewpoint of the government and education system has to change, and i get what ur trying to say. But try to visit Jordan andLebanon, ofcourse, like not everything will b developed as the usa.
But its the"rouh", when u first land and leave the airport that breeze of air sends u to heaven. Like life is so good and they don't live in poverty, things may not b dveloped as much as america but its about the ppl.
The system may b sh!t, but my school in london is sh!t. At least in arab countries, they're kidsput effort to succeed. But like here, its all about the booz and having a laugh and don't c the value of education. Not only the education but the infrastructure, they all compain about tax and don't realise the heaven (which others see) they're living.
Jordan is gorgeous, Lebanon is gorgeous.
Ilham, you talk about dveloping and buildings and stuff (ithink) how in lebanon from al jazeera things haven't chnaged.
If you visit London, look at the council estates or those reliced victorian buildings.
ALL i can say is, everywhere there is poverty, everwhere there is fanatsy andindulgence.
The most important thing is our health, money, family and our life. If we have the basics, say hamdulilah.
I can't wait, i'm in urgent need for a vacation.
oh yeah ilham, i so agree with u on the last note of civil war.
U know what, they should put me in charge of iraqand watch what i can do. I'll kick all those idioits out of our country, iraq is polluted of foreigners(i mean evil ones {u know who am talking}). I'll cleanse the country first, then improve gorvemenrt serivce, then the infrastructure.
And i'll build a fair bigger than the existing one. Build a shoppiing and a business centre bigger than twin towers, make a country of fanatasy.
Am dreaming too much probably cause am hungry, i'll go and eat now. Cause am talking a load of flaffle worse than avril. But i would do it you know, but working in vogue isn't that better? There is a less chance of me getting killed.
Sorry about my gammer and punctuation, its too late for me to write. I should be listening to my ipod.
well, i think that most of peopole who offonse ilham, took her post as an insult for the arabic world! i take her post from an otther view! she don't insult the arabic person, but she blame and speak about the system= gouvernement and how it distruct the arabic world; by corrupt etc etc , and didn't give the people their own right and chance to improuve their life (except for a little % as i see). and second thing i understand from her post and i agree with, is that either if we have most intelligent people in our arabic country, we still didn't reach the level of inventement, or creativity, we are unkown in that issu internationaly, and that is due to our gouvernment politic. the budget of scientifics researchs in all the arabic country is veryyyyyyy little and that's why we don't improve. just check about it and you will be disapointed.
finaly i respect every single opinion in this site.
and i'm sooo sorry for my english.
take care, bisou
Shery I think you're right about our governement.
I am originally from Lebanon but I've never lived there and what I see on the news is not something that makes u happy.
I don't like to talk about politic or economical issues in Lebanon cuz I dont really know how the system works.
But all I can say is that if we wanna progress, we need to change allll the system and put a brand new one!
We need to have dirigeants that creates and develops new ideas and new ways to give the poor and the rich and the middle class the same rights, at least the same basic rights that everybody SHOULD have like medication, insurrance, etc. I mean the same kind of service.
A lot of things that are unfair are still going on and if we don't stop it and work like a real democratic country we will never progress.
If we see the example of Jordan.
In my opinion, Queen Rania is one of the best role models we could have in Middle-East. She's taking initiatives, she is doing so much for women empowerment, for youth and children... So, if we have more people like her in each country we would be in better places.
And honestly, I don't think that our situation will change very soon.
I just wish the best for all our countries cuz it's sad seeing always bad news on TV!
Ilham,
je ne veux pas protèger Kholoud c'est la dernière chose à quoi je pense! Elle peut dire ce qu'elle veut, j'en ai rien a ciré! L'important c'est que tu ne prennes pas ça à coeur parce que ça vaut même pas la peine. Chaque candidat ou candidate n'est là que pour la popularité, l'expérience et peut-être l'argent sinon je suis sûre qu'ils n'auraient jamais embarquer dans de telles sottises!
De plus, je ne crois pas que quelqu'un irait quitter son pays et son travail et sa vie et ses parents pour trouver soi disant "L'âme soeur" dans une émission. Tout cela c'est de la foutaise, alors ne prend pas ça au sérieux! C'est du business $$$ et c'est une manière de chercher les gens en les offusquant pour leur faire parler, et finalement, tu as le droit de dire ce que tu veux mais mélange pas tout avec tout et essaye de trouver des mots plus respectueux, si tu veux pas je les ignorais et c'est tout! YOU'RE FREE and you're right!
Thanks :o)
Lala, you are welcome any time, all jordan people will be happy to welcome any visitors, go and see yourself. I do live outside jordan, but I go there in my holiday and I love it. The most I love about is sitting in my mum balcony and see kids walking, playing, say hi to others from balcony, invit them for arabic coffee and talk, it is so relaxing for me. My mum house always full of people who comes all time. There is no complication in life there.
Of course you will hear some complaining that veg. price is higher today, or go and buy now it is cheap in that place ... etc it is so simple life and I enjoy it.
Shery, I do understand Ilham and I agree with some with her, but if we all say, it is so bad and I will stay out, so who will do the changes, who will help. We end all of you, specialy who have a clear vision.
Go Kholod and Wassim, I love them, so don't ask me why>hahahahha
thnx for saying about every body like that but i have a qustion what happened when sms night for the mothers i think bas heni kan ma3on 7a u7ko hek lano sa7 kalmon they are true the show is all of it to tonat avril and toant khouled what about the others they didnt come for sitinng and wathching about whats going on whith khoulod and avril the show is now for for evey one came to the show
unbelievable. i took this from LBC site
rtruth revealed...please post !!!
please read !!
http://www.elaph.com/ElaphWeb/Entertainment/2007/7/248806.htm
It's such a big lie!!!!the jealousy from
Patty & Bassel is so obvious!!!!!it came just the day before the prime
Go Patty & Bassel!!!you are the best...All this is the game of The Jordanians who want Wassim & Aya to win, even tho they are too young & hesitant for marriage
As long as there is still religious fanatism, the Arabs would never improve.
in USA they live with hundreds of religions, nationalities & colors, and they all get along fine