Kholoud or Avril, Really? Who is Right?


Everyone knows about the big conflict between Avril and Kholoud, the reportage in prime 8 showed both of them talking about each other and claiming they are on the right side. But really, who is right? Furthermore, our opinions as viewers are not fully correct as we do not watch them constantly 24 hours to comment, nor do we know what’s inside but can only assume and form opinion based from what we can see, which is little depending on our lifestyle.

Avril does not like the way kholoud provokes her; she does not like what she says or does. Avril believes that Kholoud gives evil looks and will not reunite their friendship because of her son’s exams. She does not want to make things too much to cope with for her son, was she right in her decision not to reunite with Kholoud? If she reunited, couldn’t that make tension less?

Moreover, for kholoud, she does not understand the hatred and she is happy if she is disliked or Avril’s refusal to forgive. She wants to know what kind of provocative act she has done, and she wants to understand things that Avril holds against her.

What would you recommend for these two mums?
Whose side are you on and a full explanation to why you have this opinion?
Do you think if both mums are balanced out, they are equal to how unfair or bad to each other? On the other hand, is there a mum who weighs more to it?
Are they both reasonable in some ways?
What do you think?

By Guest Writer Lala

50 Comments
  1. ahmed | July 14, 2007 12:30 AM

    kouloud is the best mother,she is direct,frankly,but avril is actress and liar,khouloud is right,we wote wassim and najd

    ahmed
  1. manal | July 14, 2007 1:04 AM

    Moayad & his mom are the classiest & best educated.All the rest are clowns
    Lina would suit him well

    manal
  1. Razan | July 14, 2007 1:55 AM

    Personally, I like kholoud. Even though she does seem to say certain things that lead us to believe she is trying to break certain couples apart. But, then I could be mistaken. The only reason Avril doesn't like her is because she is the only one that challenges her. The competition looks like its between the two couples Wassim/Aya and Basil/Pati. But, if they keep naming each other Mouyad and Lina might end up winning the game (that is, if they become a couple).

    Razan
  1. tina | July 14, 2007 3:48 AM

    kouloud is the nice mom because she trys to be avril friend but it is dumb just for sons exam
    she can not be some ones friend it is to funny.The reason Avril doesn't like her is because she is the only one that challenges her. The competition looks like its between the two couples Wassim/Aya and Basil/Pati.and because
    koulouds son wassism may win him and aya.
    And avril wants basil and pati to win
    becuse he is her son.

    tina
  1. audrey | July 14, 2007 4:36 AM

    I personally was very satisfied when Avaril chose not to make any effort to reoconnect with Khalood. She speaks as she truely feels. If you don't like someone, you are not going to force yourself to be friends with them. Avaril does not fancy khalood, and I don't blame her for cutting any relations with khalood given what ms. know-it-all has put her through for the past week. At least, Avaril wasn't trying to score points with the audience, and she accurately depcited her emotions.

    On the other hand, we all know khalood cannot stand the sight of avaril, but she tries to put on this " i will always love you" act claiming she has only respect and good will for Avaril. When in reality, she would beat Avaril with a stick if it was up to her. Here is what I have to say khalood, " own it up woman. If you hate someone, you don't have to fool us with your Mother Teresa act! Just come out and say it!"

    As much as she claims her loyalty to honesty and absolute frankness, she nevertheless displays her inner devious ways. All I can say is that reality will slap her in the face soon. Just Watch out, Khalood!

    audrey
  1. Sara | July 14, 2007 5:55 AM

    Kholood is pure evil and a big hypocrite. She herself said once she would never attend Patti n Bassel's wedding should they win and get married, so don't try to appear that you're miss lovey-dovey now. For a person who claims to cherish honesty and frankness (Ana Ba7eb essara7a), she's being very dishonest by pretending to want to befriend Avril, after what? After going and telling Patti that Avril didn't like her and that her life would be very difficult with Bassel if she married him? What a two-faced person! I have much more respect for Avril after tonight's Prime, and I totally support her unwillingness to make up with K; If your heart isn't in something, you shouldn't do it. It was K who fired the first shot during the first week of the show, as they showed us today. She rated Avril 2 out of 10 of all the moms. And who does she think she is to be rating the mothers? Talk about someone who feels supercilious and better than the rest!! And yes, I'm sure that was all in good fun, but i'm certain she meant it. In fact, all the things she accuses Avril of, are totally personified in K herself. I'd much rather have a mom in law like Avril than Kholood. K was just playing to the popularity factor with the girls and the audience when the big drama was going on this week.

    And how rude was Wassim today with his totally inappropriate question to Rawda! I can't believe he asked her if she hoped her emotional reaction to Ayman's nomination would deter the girls from naming him. He actually asked her if her reactions were real or exaggerated!!! I was shocked at his cruelty and rudeness. Obviously the lady is hyper sensitive when it comes to her son, especially when others that she likes are naming him or being unkind. To ask such a question of her is out of line, but shows us his true colors. He really is his mother's son!!! Ibn ummo!!! I used to really like him and thought him a gentle soul who probably takes after a gentle father. My opinion of him has been worsening little by little and today's Prime proved to me that he's the same as his mom....lacking in class and finesse, and tending to be on the vulgar side.

    Sara
  1. PB&A | July 14, 2007 6:54 AM

    I totally agree with Sara and audrey! You both are so right!

    Avril did not change her mind when she was asked if she would befriend Tante Kholoud, even though the crowd was saying yes! She still said no, so you know she's there for her son, unlike kholoud who is there for herself! Kholoud said she will befriend Avril, but tante Avril isn't dumb enough to believe her and I definitly don't! They received an SMS like that and they said they'll be friends but it never happened! Plus Kholoud says she's honest and she said she'll be willing to be friends with TANTE Avril, but I assure you she'll start talking about Avril or her son! If she wanted to be friends she would stop talking about her! She's just trying to be a crowd pleaser!

    I agree with you Sara Wassim was rude today! It was probably a question that his mom came up with! LOL! He's totally copying Bassel, with that beard he was growing!

    I liked Patti's reason for nominating him! He said he'd leave if there was a more serious couple ready to get married because he isn't ready! LIAR! LIKE Mother like son! He won't he just wants to PROVE that he's better than Bassel! It's a popularity compition for him, he's like a child! I feel as though Aya is a million years older than himself! He's such a child and acts like one! Especially with the whole dinner thing and fish! Sore winner! I know i'm mad Bassel didn't win but he didn't have to say what he did!

    PB&A
  1. TAJ | July 14, 2007 8:28 AM

    so who left the show????? and who are the nominees???


    Pattie is the Best :) :) !!!!!!

    TAJ
  1. lara | July 14, 2007 9:34 AM

    i like Avril she is definetly better than khouloud "el 7aye"
    and i liked how Ayman replied to Poussy's question.I hate that girl.
    Fatima left th show & all the guys are nominees

    lara
  1. ahmed | July 14, 2007 9:35 AM

    fatima rahet,the nominee all the boys,fr me,khoulouddddddd is the best,she is franc,avril is very hopriet,bassel e patty maghrourin ktirrrrrrrrrr

    ahmed
  1. rana | July 14, 2007 9:36 AM

    i think Kholoud is the bestmom..... she tried soooo many timesss to be avril friend,, but avrill doesnt want too... and avril keep saying my son my sonn my sonn like wtf??? i dont know wat she thinks of her son.......kholoud is way better she has more knowledge than any other mother...... can anyone tell me who came top 1 in the gurlss votingggg..?? plzzz

    rana
  1. maya | July 14, 2007 10:10 AM

    rememebr all that 3 lebanese girls were nominees! thats why the votes splitted between them paty 29,.. gabi 16,.. and fatmeh 14,.. but next time if one of them for exp pati is nominated alone she will get a lot more than 29 trust me ;) as for now bassel is number 1 for us!! goooooooooo bassel vote 2 everyone

    maya
  1. moni | July 14, 2007 10:27 AM

    the votes were:

    aya 30,..
    pati 29,..
    gabi 16,..
    fatmeh(leb) 14,..
    fateema the rest

    so fateema got out

    moni
  1. audrey | July 14, 2007 2:35 PM

    Sara and PB&A,

    I totally noticed the viciousness behind wassim's question... What was he thinking? He basically told Rawda that she fakes her feelings and strives for sympathy from the girls and the voters. I can't believe a 19 year old boy has the sheer audacity to say something like that to someone older than his mother. What a shame??? I'm so disappointed in him, and I hope now he does not taste the finals!!! He doesn't deserve to win nor does he deserve ayah. Wassim and khalood are pretty much uncouth and unrefined. It's time for them to pack their bags and hit their homeland and spare us from their unwarranted accusations and verbal molestations!!!!

    audrey
  1. egygirl | July 14, 2007 3:00 PM

    well..that show is not real i mean series are real than that show!! so fake...i can't believe people doing that to each other in that way i feel like it is planned!!!may be that is how they get people attention and they did...cos they made me and my mom see all the prime even if i don't like it!!

    wake up people!! u don't believe all that we all remember star academy and what happened to poor amal ! they r trying to make people hate khloud

    egygirl
  1. fluffy | July 14, 2007 3:09 PM

    avrillllllllllllllllllllllll is the bestttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt vote bassel everyoneeeeeeeee vote voteeeeee and voteeeeee

    fluffy
  1. susu | July 14, 2007 3:10 PM

    kholoud is horrible. she is such a sly snake. she doesnt honestly want to become friends with avril. shes just trying to appear in a good way infront of the audience and impress everyone, whilst avril doesnt care...which is good, theres no need to fake being friendly. no one wants to be friends with kholoud.

    susu
  1. Lara | July 14, 2007 3:57 PM

    if i was paty i would commit suicide before i get married to basel with this stuck-up mother in law...kholoud is outgoing, honest, nice..while that show off (avril)thinks she rules the world..
    its true what kholoud said about avril, that when she talks about people behind their backs its ok, bas when people talk about her she gets offensive and gets pissed off! she should wake up a little, she's just basil's mom, nothing else!

    Lara
  1. Maha | July 14, 2007 4:22 PM

    Khouloud & her son are making fun of Aya, who is very sweet.They'll hurt her in the process because Moayad had his eye on her, mom Nidal likes her a lot.If she is smart, she'll leave that low class, uneducated...he'll never marry her, or if he odes, she'll be Khouloud's puppet
    Of course Avril is better , once her son is married, she'll never interfere, not the case with that vulgar Khouloud.She brags about her jamhour, audience,.Is she here for her fame or her son?Anyway, she should send him to school before marriage, or he'll be just like her

    Maha
  1. Li | July 14, 2007 4:47 PM

    Kholoud is a great person, she's honest, clever and hard-working that's why people and especially girls admire her and Wassem is a gentleman despite his young age. As for Avril, she thinks she's the best mother while she's nothing but a rude, arrogant and backstabbing hypocrite who even had the nerve to say that all the girls are not well-bred without showing respect to their families, how would she feel if somebody said that about her daughter? Patty is not going to be happy with Bassel because he proved to be a Momma's boy so it's better for her to go back to France and meet some French guy named Louis or Pierre.

    Li
  1. tam | July 14, 2007 5:19 PM

    i think wassim and aya will win i think aya will have better life with a mother in law like khoud she is sweet smart and nice rather than avril she is a liar and have a big mouthi feel bad for paty i am from lebanon and i give all votes to wassim and aya i love you khouloud

    tam
  1. mymy | July 14, 2007 6:41 PM

    to sara , audrey
    that is the true paty will not have an easy life with tante avril and basel..cuz kholoud is real she knows that paty have a different religion and she knows pretty well that basel or paty will never gave up about their religions and both of them will want to rease their kids in the same way they will raise,,but basel is trying to avoid those things because he wants to win and after the program paty will be in the real life so that'S why kholoud was trying to say to paty eno el binit lezim ta3rif el 3adet before married the guy i think that is something very normal..specially that both of them come from two different religion they will have to choose about lots of thing and u can see it now ..basel is always with his mom and he always defends her by the way that's a vey good thing i become to really like him..i don't know if anyone saw the face of paty after kholoud ask the question to basel about if he will choose her mom or the family of his wife she was so angry..poor her..but she have to understand that she can't control basel..

    mymy
  1. audrey | July 14, 2007 7:26 PM

    mymy,

    I don't agree with you. I don't think it's a question of religion. Yes, they maybe from different religions, but this difference will not hinder them from building a life together. I know many female christians and male muslims who have married eachother and have worked out their differences. Don't forget that Lebanese people come from various religion factions and beliefs! Hence, they are accustomed to these differences. I know many lebanese who have married outside of their religions, and they have successful marriages. I don't think it would be a problem for them if they are willing to discuss their differences and understand eachother.

    audrey
  1. rana | July 14, 2007 7:54 PM

    soo aya was nu#1 woww... i thought pati.. but ohh welll cuz i wanted aya to winnnnnnnnn

    rana
  1. fathia | July 14, 2007 9:54 PM

    the reason why avril doesn,t like Kholoud because she is the only one that challenges her.i personally think aya and wassiam should win all i got to say is i love kholoud and also plz vote 4 aya and wassiam.avril is rude and a she is always showing off and she thinks that bassel and pati are going to win she takes control of bassel and pati relationship the reason why i think bassel and pati should not win is because of avril she is a bad mother.i hate madam avril plz plz vote 4 aya and wassiam they deserve to win !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    fathia
  1. june | July 14, 2007 11:49 PM

    To everyone..
    the sms night..
    enjoy it..

    Part 1
    http://www.badongo.com/vid/424445

    Part 2
    http://www.badongo.com/vid/424462

    Part 3
    http://www.badongo.com/vid/424473


    Thank u...
    goo basselitoo and patpout

    june
  1. Cleopatra07 | July 15, 2007 12:16 AM

    Hey There,
    I don’t think that Mme Khloud is being herself. She is acting and good at that. This lady had had a very tough life. Had to work and earn money to be able to raise her kids and had to live with her in-laws at the beginning. She knows very well how to conceal her feelings yet always claim that she is a straightforward person and has a strong personality. We’ve seen what kind of mom she was to Khaled whom she busy conspiring against candidates and left for the girls to look after!! She is a master of deception and a very provocative person. She enjoys provoking, the easily to provoke Mme Avril. Mme Avril is a true mom, whose life revolves around her family. She is not well equipped to be in a live show ‘cause she always speaks her mind. I love her and relate to her ‘cause she reminds of my aunt back home.
    I was shocked by the fact that Mme Khloud feels the show is about her. She strives for fame and I don’t think she is in the show for the right reasons. I mean after all, this show is about the perfect bride and her son isn’t ready to get married yet.
    I think that Patty and Bassel are wonderful together. They have chemistry and understanding. They are also mature enough to be able to handle any problems they might face.
    Ayah & Wassiem: They are sweet like teenagers discovering love for the first time. I should worry about their future together ‘cause the guy is not ready to get married yet and they had to deal with many issues prior of getting married. I wonder why did Wassiem join the show if he wasn’t ready to get married or did his mom force him to do it?
    Gabby & Ayman: I adore Gabby. She is a very mature person but she is very practical. Ayman is trying to please her in every way. Ayman needs to join an anger management program, learn to think before speaking, and not to trust the two wicked witches, Possy (very nasty name) and Lina.
    Possy & Lina ( The show‘s left over): They were busy conspiring against other candidates and didn’t hook up with any of the guys. They are evil and I wonder what is keeping them in the show, aside from the fact that the other couples are busy trying to vote each other out. Possy is rude & vulgar (look at the way she talks, eats, sits, etc.), but Lina has class but is not feminine enough to appeal to guys.
    Najd: He is a classical Middle Eastern man, who fell for a girl with so many psychological problems. I really don’t know what happened to her but hope she is getting all the psychological attention she needs.
    Mo2ayed: He is very kind and hate to see him ending up with Possy or Lina.

    Cleopatra07
  1. audrey | July 15, 2007 1:15 AM

    June,

    you are amazing!!! Thank you so much for the links! you never let us down.

    audrey
  1. Sara | July 15, 2007 6:02 AM

    June, thanks for the links. You're terrific.

    I was shocked watching the dailies today at Kholood's joy and pleasure that the show was all about her and that people are watching her and that she's important and a star! My husband, who doesn't follow the show, happened to be listening to her go on about how wonderful she is and he said to me: "This woman is sick!" That's the perfect word to describe K. She's so busy plotting, scheming and bragging about herself, that she doesn't see that her son is not ready for marriage, nor is he really into Aya, who is adorable and deserves someone to cherish her.

    For all those who say that Avril thinks she's better than most, are you guys watching the same show? If anyone continuously and relentlessly blows her own horn it's K; here are some of the adjectives she uses to describe herself:

    educated, Zakiyeh (smart), Fahmaneh (smart again), Saree7ah (honest), Ya jabal ma yhezzak ree7, etc.

    It sounds like it's Kholood who thinks she's the best mom there. I totally agree with Cleopatra07 that while Avril is just being herself and is there for her son only, K is only after her own personal gains, whatever those may be. Avril is really a simple woman who is 3ala neyyata, unpretentious, and not necessarily very eloquent, but very harmless. I so agree with Cleopatra07 that while the cute little Kahled was visiting, his mom pretty much left his care taking up to the girls and kept herself busy scheming and making up plans B and C in case plan A did not work out.

    Mymy, it doesn't sound like the financial situation of Bassel really makes him desperate to win the show. According to Poussy, who was listening carefully, he had said at the very beginning that whoemever ends up as his wife will not need to work and will have people (servants?) to help her out. The family has a house in Beirut and one in Kuwait, so I don't think they're in this for the money. As for the religion part, I agree with Audrey that Lebanese are used to the various religions and sects because that's the nature of the country. Also, the candidates are asked during the casting whether they mind moving to other countries and whether they mind marrying someone from another religion. So, not a problem. And I don't think the Kholood cares about Patti one fig, so her "advice" to Patti is not because she's concerned about the girl, she wants to plant more of her doubt and poison that she's so adept at doing. 2allah Ynajeena men hal mara! What an aweful human being, and an embarrassment to Arab womanhood. Keep watching and I'm sure you'll see more of her scheming and evil ways.


    Sara
  1. Elissa | July 15, 2007 6:29 AM

    OMG! YAY! Thank you so much June for the links! You made my day once again!

    VOTE for Bassel everyone! Don't assume he'll be safe! VOTE VOTE VOTE!

    Elissa
  1. Moth-hela | July 15, 2007 6:54 AM

    yes3ed rabha la kholoud, if i was a candidate, i would hook up with her son just to be her daughter in law! damn it ! shes soo cool! a daughter in law would bee so happy living in an enviornment like that, full of joy and jokes, life is priceless so live it to the max! where on the other hand, avril is so damn nekdeh lol, betlef w bedoor and she doesnt say a complete sentence straight and she is uneducated and has a lack of understanding of todays modern world!

    Moth-hela
  1. Elissa | July 15, 2007 7:25 AM

    Hey Moth-hela watch your language! We are here to have a civilized argument! Don't be trashy!

    I love Avril, and she thinks the way the people in the Khaliejj think! It just depends on where you lived and who influences you! I think she's a wonderful women, and Tante Kholoud is trying to relived her young women years! SHe's ridiclous!

    Wassim now wants to STay because he finally realizes he can get someting out of this show! So if all of a sudden he's ready for marriage it's not because of the girl but for the cash prize! Aya needs to watch out, and I hope her parents like kholoud...

    Cleopatra I really liked your comment!

    Vote for BASEL!!!!!!

    Elissa
  1. bebe | July 15, 2007 10:06 AM

    Khloud is the best Avril go to hell!! THATS ALL!

    bebe
  1. nemo | July 15, 2007 11:27 AM

    Avril is the best and khouloud go to hell!! THATS ALL hehehe.. VOTE BASSEL TILL THE VERY LAST MINUTE !!!!!!!!

    nemo
  1. soha | July 15, 2007 1:32 PM

    hi!! the best mum is really kholod she is the best !!!
    and come on vote to wassim people she must stay to the final he and aya come on!!!!
    good luck to: kholod,aya,wassim,nariman,najd,poussy,lina,fatma,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    fatma,rasha,musa3ed,souhel,khaled(wasims brother) ////we miss you////
    you 're the BEST ONE OKEY????
    avril go to hell hahahahha basel you should take another than paty she is a laying like gaby

    soha
  1. sousou | July 15, 2007 2:24 PM

    How I wish Moayad gets connected with Aya or Lina.I'm sure they'll win.Wassim is a jerk who is not marrying Aya..he & his unclassy mom are making fun of her to cash the money
    Thank God that liar Fateema is out
    Patty should not marry Bassel....he & Avril seem very fanatic with their religion & customs

    sousou
  1. missy | July 15, 2007 2:38 PM

    AVRIL IS NOT ACTING thats why i love her no matter what she says, i will allways like her coz she s being herself vote basselittoooooooo number 2

    missy
  1. mirna | July 15, 2007 4:38 PM

    khuloud is very good mom i like her very much and the only mother that is doing problems is avril not kholoud as u see in the prime kholoud is always smiling while avril always feeling lealous from kholoud and avril always talking about bassel and pati while kholoud not always talking about her son and aya

    mirna
  1. mymy | July 15, 2007 8:12 PM

    sara
    yes basel came from a good family and he has money but he really wants to win and we can all see that..and like u r saying his family has money but he didn't start is own career yet and no one will be sad if they win 100 000$..do u really think that he came in the show only to get a wife?..umm i don't think so cuz he can gets any girls he wants outside the show and i don't think he came in the show to get a 28 years wife looking so tired like paty..she is a quiet and mature but don't don't forget thaT she is not young like the other girls in the program..so he ends up with her and this is a good thing for him if he wants to win, cuz madame rola wants paty to win it's obvious to see that..but it's ok they are both lebanese and cute but i feel that this couple will not stay together for a long time i don't why..and it true about what u said that thee is a lot of female christian with muslim guy and christian guy with muslim girl in lebanon who get married and had a nice relation..but about paty and basel like i said u see it from now that basel is more in the side of his mom and he admit it that he will always choose his family before his wife so that's why i feel that they will face serious problem..but of course if paty accept lot of changes they may work together..

    mymy
  1. audrey | July 15, 2007 8:24 PM

    mymy,

    some corrections: 1. patty is 26 years old not 28 so she's as young as the rest of the girls.
    2. Bassel does have a career. he had a job, but he quit to come to this show.
    3. They weren't aware of the prizes that will be offered at the end of the show. After they displayed the prizes during the last prime, they all came to realize the mangitude of actually remaining to the final prime. Hence, your theory that bassel came to win prizes is inherently flawed.

    audrey
  1. Sara | July 15, 2007 9:37 PM

    Mymy,

    Contrary to what you think, even a 28 year old girl is still young (as Audrey pointed out above, Patti is actually 26), and most "educated" and enlightened guys these days are not attracted to young girls due to the immaturity factor, the lack of things in common when you have a large age span between couples, the lack of preparedness to commit, etc. It's very passe and "old village-like" for a 30 year old man to want to marry someone half his age; it's very demode and backward. So, just because Patti is not 16, does not make her an old hag. And as far as the way she looks, of course you're entitled to your opinion and there's no accounting for tastes, but Patti and Gabi, who by the way is 29, are the two most beautiful girls on the show, inside and out. They're pretty much the complete package, from what we can see as spectators. And obviously the 2 of them must have something really special if they've inspired such passions from the two most desirable guys there (my opinion).

    And I don't know how you or anyone knows that Mme. Rola wants Patti to win. Everyone was saying that Mme. Rola only wanted the Lebanese kids to win on Starac, meaning Tina and Carlo, and lo and behold, a most deserving Iraqi won, because she was the best, and the audience recognized that.

    And how do you know that P & B's possible marriage will be a failure? How can anyone predict this in any couple's relationship. I think on the contrary, he is so very clear to the world about the importance of his family in this life, it will make things easier for everyone, because his wife will know where matters stand. It's better this way than if he were wishy-washy about things. And I'm curious, why aren't the other guys asked if their moms/families come first or not? Does anyone think that Wassim would ever say that Aya comes before his mom? I think not! Kholood will yank his ear off his head!!!!

    Let's face it folks, a man who treats his mom with respect and affection and values her above all, will make the most amazing husband! A rotten son will make a rotten hubby.

    Sara
  1. mymy | July 15, 2007 11:51 PM

    to audrey
    about the prizes i knew for the begining that it was 100 000 $..only the trip in thailand i didn't know about it..because before the show in the publicity taba3 perfect bride the say if u participate u can win 100 000$ so we know about it before the show they say on lbc 2 month before the show start..
    to sara
    about wassim of curse he will never say that aya comes before his mom ..he is a nice guy he will nbever say such things and even basel i said that's it's a good thing when he said that his mom is before his wife..but at least about wassim and aya kholoud was very honest with aya she tolds her about the different thing she should change ..and how they are and etc..and kholoud doesn't have any problem if wassim went to tunis if he finds a better job there..but avril went crazy when paty said she will go to kuwait to see if she can leave there so that's why i think that it may not work at all if paty doesn't want to change her mind about lots of thing..

    mymy
  1. mymy | July 16, 2007 12:20 AM

    and by the way if kholoud was the mom of basel and that basel was with paty exactly like now i think u would never said bad thnigs about her..but only because his son is a concurrent for basel and paty u say such things..same thing u like aiman u said that he is the most desirable guy..while everyone can see that, he doesn't know how to talk and how to act, sometimes i feel that he didn't grow since he had 10 years..well it's true that its ur opinon.. but do u like him only because he is with gaby? ..because if u like and dislike only the people who are against and with the people u loved that it's not a good reason to say bad thing about them..

    mymy
  1. Cleopatra07 | July 16, 2007 1:33 AM

    Hey There,
    We need to be more rational in our analysis of the show. The purpose of this show is to pick the Perfect Bride and it goes without saying , the perfect couple. So we need not be biased to couples representing our country of origin. The perfect couple need to be the ones who are mature enough to get married, have mutual understanding, and since the show is targeting the people of the M.E they need to have values of the region, yet be modern enough to appeal to the younger generations. I think that Bassel and Patty are the perfect couples. Second to them, are Ayman and Gabby. Gabby is very mature and Ayman is so much in love with her. Ayah is a good candidate but Wassiem is not ready to get married yet. He changed his mind after learning of the prizes (not very promising).
    It was amazing that in today’s SMS session there were none addressed to Ayah and Wassiem. I am certain that there are others who feel that they are not ready yet.
    The other candidates are the left over of the show. Possy joined the show for the free food and to gossip. God she is an eating machine and has gained much weight. I think, whoever came with the idea of SMS, added to Possy's frustrations which she comforts by eating more and more food. I remember at one point Possy that telling Mme Khloud that she made dinner to the guys and after eating the food she prepared, both Ayman and Bassel were fighting over her. The poor thing it seems everything in her life revolves around food. Lina is not a very attractive girl but has class. She is wicked in too many ways. She just can’t digest the fact that none of the guys fell for her. She is very tough in the way she deals with others. She was and is an ally and collaborator of Possy and there mission is to spread hatred and poison among candidates.
    Why is Possy being nice to Mme Avril? I always suspect her intensions. Please tell Mme Avril not to trust her. Why did she have to share in the conversation and how does the story of her brother Sherief relate to the conversation?
    Is Mo2ed that desperate to remain in the show that he wants to hook-up with Lina?

    Cleopatra07
  1. Sana | July 16, 2007 5:20 AM

    Avirl said many times that her daughter told her, her sons told her, I am wondering how come she can talk freely with her children and the others can't discuss anything regarding the show with their family, they said it many times that LBC teams will be watching them.

    So don't you think LBC is giving Avirl advantage over other mums.

    And I heard that the driving lessons Avril is taking is all just to get her out to see her family and get some time out. No one is watching her when she is out, that is not fair.

    And yes I like kholod even if she somtimes talk about who happy to be #1 in the show, why you made it sound like it is crime, come on it is entertainment show and not war as Avirl wanted to be.

    And regarding wassim, because he was happy to hear about the prize, others were saying, that he is only there for the prize, isn't that why all are there? don't you think Bassil needs it too, remember he is not working. What about the others aren't they willing to go to the end just for the prize.

    Look at Gabi after she heard about the prize she changed her attitue toward Ayman who is not right for her, I like her she has strong and clear personlality

    And one more thing, I heard that Patty is related to Rola Saad, What do you think of this new information, is it clear now why LBC is trying to show Patty in her best and others are so bad.

    Thank you

    Sana
  1. sana | July 16, 2007 5:27 AM

    By the way, I also heard that Lina is from very wealthy family, she herself has account in the bank with big cash.

    She is there just to get new experience, to get the chance to find someone without knowing who is she and how much she has, that is why she wasnt depsrete to run after men from the 1st week like the others did, she cant do that and she said it many times I cant take the first step I am not used to do so, the other girls did take the first step and they end up with the man they invited from the first time, they know how to play it. After all it is a game

    sana
  1. Sana | July 16, 2007 6:02 AM

    For whome who dosen't know, all the people in the show know what is the prize before they joined.

    100,000 was not a surprise to them, but i think the trip was.

    So all are in the show basicly for the prize and for new experience, other wise they will find their couple outside, all the guys and girls looks good.

    Sana
  1. bob | July 16, 2007 9:02 AM

    hey all everyone has the right to say anything he wants its his own opinion but in my opinion the show is nothing without gabi she s the best of the besttt

    bob
  1. sana_k | July 16, 2007 4:51 PM

    yes avril is not ACTING.

    THAT IS HER NATURE, unhappy and jeoules from all happy people.

    sana_k
  1. Cleopatra07 | July 16, 2007 6:21 PM

    Hi All,
    Sana, regarding the following:
    - Giving Mme Avril the privilege of contacting her family, I think all the other moms have the same privilege. We’ve watched Mme Khloud call her family at an early stage of the show and so did the other moms. Mme Khloud had the privilege of meeting with her daughter and son and inviting them to stay at the house.
    - Your belief that Patty is related to Mrs. Rola Saad. I am not sure of the source and hope it is not based on the feelings of many people living in the M.E that if you are good it has to be ’cause you are connected to someone important. Well, I still don’t see how does this underestimate Patty? I think the girl is a perfect example of how a modern M.E girl should look, dress, behave, express herself, and love. The fact that she and Bassel are the focus of attention is pure commercial. The audiences love them and the show sells more with them.
    - Your views about Lina not wishing to take the first step towards guys she likes, apposed to other girls who did. I think the purpose of the show is for couples to meet and it is a sort of competition with girls out-numbering guys. So she can’t just wait for a guy to be charmed by her without making any move in his direction. I mean she isn’t physically attractive, has this harsh voice, and is very tough as a girl. However, this is a very good excuse that she and Possy tell themselves instead of admitting the fact that they failed to charm any of the guys and had to wait for rejected guys. We’ve all listened to her wishing to invite Ayman, who was hooked-up with Gabby, to dinner adding, “who knows maybe even a romantic dinner.”
    - I agree with you that the candidates all knew about the show’s prize prior to joining. However, reminding them must have had its magic.

    Finally, I would like to add that both Mme Khloud and Possy can win a prize as the most provocative people in the show. Adding to it their new definition of the word “Sari7a”(straight-forward) and “Qawiya” (have a strong personality) to mean being rude, discourteous, bad-mannered, offensive and disrespectful. As a person of Egyptian origin I think Possy is the worst example of an educated Egyptian girl. God she is so vulgar, needs to learn how to act and dress like a lady, gets crazy when she sees food, and need to lose weight.

    Cleopatra07


 
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