First there was LBC star Academy ... Then came Star Academy Maghreb and the future seems to hold a new version of this extremely popular show; Star Academy Egypt!
Egyptian singer Amr Diab has been planning this for some time now and after taking the OK from the Egyptian ministry of communications it seems he will go ahead with his plan.
The show will be a bit different that our usual Star Academy, the prime will supposedly air on Thursday, but there will be a daily summary of the life inside the Academy.
It's still now known whether there'll be a 24/24 channel like Nagham ... But it still sounds interesting!
Do you think Star Academy Egypt will make it big like LBC Star Academy?
By guest writer Shaza
Comments
No because eygpt dont has the huge money to be like star acdemy lbc and star acdemy middle east is called not LBC,and LBC has money alot to produce a program like that cause in lebanon but in eygpt they cant do it,and if they do it it will not be huge and they will bring all singers from melody production not world wide singers,okay, and also if eygpt does they dont have the chance to be popular(students)like lebanon because lebanon has a media ads not like maser,no media 1 channel wich is the offical channel
No because eygpt dont has the huge money to be like star acdemy lbc and star acdemy middle east is called not LBC,and LBC has money alot to produce a program like that cause in lebanon but in eygpt they cant do it,and if they do it it will not be huge and they will bring all singers from melody production not world wide singers,okay, and also if eygpt does they dont have the chance to be popular(students)like lebanon because lebanon has a media ads not like maser,no media 1 channel wich is the offical channel
YES ABED IS RIGHTTTTTTTTTT
SHOUHA MASER
offcourse they cant
Hamada Cairo
No matter what u do maghreb or egypt starac, they wont be as succefull as the lebanese starac cause in lebanon the workers are very proffesional and the media is very very stronggg and so many factors... nd it attracks not only the arab world but also the whole world so that the arabs everywhere can watch it, its on a very high level.. as for starac maghreb nd egypt i am 100% sure it will only be popular in their own country thats if it was succeful in their country in the first place..
i agree with all of u guys!!!
first of all no one will vote from the other conutries only Egypt! its not like their VS. iraq or Maghreb or even khalje. " only Egypt" they losse money and will see
I've to agree it wont be as successful as the labanese one . But it sounds interesting to me . Cuz egyptians has been treated unfiar those last years . Besides here in Egypt there're lots of talents lots lots lots we have people who has even nicer than shaza's voice i dunno why the LBC likes having the least from the participants who comes to join i mean sally even if some of u dont like her omg omg omg loooook how many contracts has she got or how many company wants to be with her it is sometihng amazing . This girl is multi talented but the academy didnt give her the chance . She dances, she acts she does lots lots of things. i even see her sometimes better than Amma7 . Carlo u r my staaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
Guys ,
I know it sounds a bit different but i think it'll be nice ofcourse not like STARACADEY LBC who get all this money from Staracademy France . Amr diab will be the producer and amr diab will do anything to make egypt nice this is what i am sure of . SO, i am waitin for staracademy egypt.
Imagine more than atteya in one place
more than one hany
more than one talented sally rakia and zizi
Even YAsser he went in the third week in starac1 but here we goes i havent ever been to a concert and he wasnt there.
Waiting for the REAL egyptian talents not those whom are 1000000000% less than the real talented people in here
GO CARLO I ADORES U
U ARE THE STAR
i have nothing against egypt and i love it BUT COME ONE EVERY SHOW HAS TO BE UNIQUE every country is starting to have a staracademy COME ONN plz dont copy so much
look guyz,kol bernameg haykoon leeh shaklo and his style, w el masryeen lehom shakl tany gheer kol el belad ,they r funny,full of energy,r not boring,so i think star academy egypt will be great but not like the lebanes,3ashan ele fe lebanon feeh students men kol el belad bas el egytion one haykoon men egypt bas
Egypt star academy will be successful and it will not be unfair like lebanon star academy which sucks and its so great that Amr Diab will be incharge.go go go EGYPT
All I'm affraid of is that we're going to be left with 3 weak programs , because they would reduce each one's casting opportunities. Egypt and North Africa have been sending winners for 4 seasons
and it's their students that make all the fun and suspense on the LBC's show so no matter if the local versions aren't going to be as successful as the lebanese one but the harm is already done by reducing the lbc's field of selection .
it will be great! i hope they include students from other countries but. they will not be copying from LBC because LBC copied the program from France which copied it from the American Idole :))
zoz,
"but the harm is already done by reducing the lbc's field of selection ."
are u kidding where r u living my dear?
it s good for egypt, at least they will always
have an egyptian who wins at the end, and
this way, they will spare the other countries
who wins at starac lbc from racict comments.
I do appreciate a lot the level of professionalism in lbc but I still believe it's not god given gift, people can learn it and be trained to be professionals or even hire the best in the world why not when lbc is collecting all that money from the Arab world and specially form the Maghreb and Egypt that some people kind of trying to put down.
It's just funny that the least voting/paying country gets more than 80% of the show...they use other people's money to just keep shoving down our throat their dialect, their songs, their singers (specially the mediocre ones), their judges all the way to their Hilda....and they pretend to have a Middle East show!!!not bothering to learn that the Maghreb is not even in the Middle East...but why bother to know?!!
As a Tunisian I feel closer musically and emotionally to Lebanese the most in the Middle East...but seriously there are adjustments to be made...
- Maybe including other judges form other Arab countries.
- Air more Arab songs other than Lebanese and Egyptian.
-Stop inviting people like that Haifa etafha just because she is Lebanese, stop inviting twice in the same season average Lebanese singers while ignoring other brilliant Arab singers, they don't just invite them but they force our young people to sing the trash they sing like Haifa and sell us other below average lebanese songs ...
- Stop laughing at people and think of them as stupid like inviting Laila Gofran and Samira Said and present them as Moroccans while they don't sing, talk or even look Moroccans all a long ignoring all about the real Moroccan music and great singers...(this is just an exemple the same could be said about a lot more Arab countries).
-Stop all that excessive hagging and all the non sense between candidates.
-Show a minimum level of appreciation of the people paying for your show and the candidates who make lbc's show enjoyable...without the Maghreb and Egypt candidates you simply get no show.
I hope you will have even more successful Starac 5.
Even in Superstar show you could see the tension between the candidates and the producers/jury about choosing songs...
The last worst performance for the Syrian Yousouf, Egyptian Ibrahim and the Tunisian Yosra was 100% caused by forcing them to sing stupid songs...the candidates didn't like it at all, (Ibrahim was sent home mainly because of that choice) some of them were very vocal about it like Yosra who was clear and made sure everybody had to know she is not there to sing Hadchiti's crap just because...
By the way I thought Starac was good at least the finalists(Shatha, Marwa, Mohammad and Carlo)...until I saw Superstar.
why does everybody hate Egypt?
I can;t judge except when i see ...
France is the first to start the Star Academy thing, Lbs after that and it's sooo succesful, then Maghreb and i guess it's not that bad ...i dunno about Egypt ...
But the question is WHY do us ARABS seem to hate each other???? why dont we feel united !
AN ARAB!
CHRISTY
What I ment was that if such talents like Marwa and shaza went to starac maghreb and kammah to the egyptian one we would be left watching ali ;ahmad;carlo;tina... whom with all due respect would have made a terribly boring show.
Actually on starac maghreb I'm seeing students that would have made it big if they were on lbc's show like {firas ; hamid ;yosra....)
BY THE WAY (TUNISIAN) I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE WORD YOU SAID.I'M DISCOVERING NORTH AFRICAN MUSIC ON STARAC MAGHREB AND I FIND IT ABSOLUTELY BREATHTAKING AND VERY JAZZY .
Who said Egyptian media does't have Enough money 2 make a star academy show. Egyptian media gains Billions Each year from movies and song records. Egyptian media has much more money than the lebanese media. Lebanese media only depends on talk shows and reality TV but Egyptian media depends on Movies, Song records, and many many shows and series. Cammon guys we all know that Egypt is the major source of Stardom in the middle east. And 2 abed plz I feel that u have no knowledge at all, what the hell r u saying, Egypt can do huge shows and they have a lot of money believe me.
when are we going to see somthing creative??!!
i mean we arabs about to hit the world record of star academy's i mean come on one is enough..look how many singing show's we have hmmm..let me see..y'all count with me can you??why dont we just shut up and have one academy i swear this is getting boring.
peace
i completely agree with you, there should be one star academy (which should stay in lebanon) that combines all arabs to compete and to bring arabs together as one. One thing i loved about Star Academy is that u're bringing different cultures and nationalities that fall under the same category: ARAB. each person learns something new, like Imed said he never thought he'd get along with people from the Khaleej, but his opinion changed after meeting Ahmed, Azooz and Ayoub. Sally and Mohamed couldn't understand the different dialects but by the end of the show, they were talkin lebanese! we're missing the point that each person from each country will go home learning something new from a different country and having another love for an arabic country, despite their own love for their own country.
As for Ibrahim, he didn't leave Superstar this week, Mostafa did. and Superstar is the arabic version of American Idol, not Star Academy. America does not have a Star Academy, that was started in Europe. Im Egyptian living in NY all my life and Superstar is the CC of American Idol
zoz
I'm glad you have the interest to hear North African music. Our music is a little different we don't have mass production but most of what's produced is really worth listening to.
I hope LBC decides to give our music some justice at least the same of what they give French, English or even Spanish music specially when we are their market not France...
I think Saber El roba3i (and others)is doing great job and I hope Nessma TV will even do a better job.
LiNezS
We are just talking here...as for creativity do you think starac lbc is a creative program?...please check how many staracs in Europe.
Take it and Shut up is a great powerful logic...but it's gone forever you shouldn't bet on it in our days...:)
mysr hiya om
you are right I meant Mostafa not Ibrahim...It doesn't matter if it's a copy of American Idol or not what matters is the quality voices this program brings to us when we are bombarded every day by mediocre to no voice at all.
By the way we shouldn't wait for Starac to introduce us to each other it's just terrible logic. I would love to have one show for all of us and I mean FOR ALL OF US...but this is the 4th season and frankly we don't see ourselves ALL OF US in it.
That's just what I think.
zoz
You can go to daily motion and type nessma tv you will find a lot of videos from Starac Maghreb.
I liked Yosra the most but Hamid, Hajer, Thoraya (french)and Farid all have very nice voices.
Hope you enjoy them.
I cant bealive some people here are saying LBC has more money than Egypt, and they have media and Egypt does not. Seriously, Egypt has the biggest media in the middle east, we have a media center, and we have a media centre for all the studio's. We have film studio's, and if Amr Diab is going to do it, then trust me it's going to be good. I cant bealive how some people here can be so idiotic. Specially the guy with the first post.
Also, to the guy with the first post. How can Lebanon have more media, when we have the most channels in the middle east. Over 50% of the channels are Egyptian. And we do have our official channel, named Al MASRETYA. You keep proving how big of an idiot you are.
Also, to the guy with the first post. How can Lebanon have more media, when we have the most channels in the middle east. Over 50% of the channels are Egyptian. And we do have our official channel, named Al MASREYA. You keep proving how big of an idiot you are.
Actually there are many countries that did Star crapademy way before LBC. France are the ‘masterminds’ behind this lame idea (whom obviously ripped the idea from pop idol; which in turn was ripped from something else).
Let it also be known that France is not known for great TV & never has been acknowledged for their imaginative efforts on the small screen, in fact European TV in its entirety is bad except 4 Brit TV (even though it’s still full of reality drivel). The UK did Fame academy and subsequently dropped it after the second series. Australia then did Star Academy. So trust me LBC, MBC and the rest come wayyyyyyyy down the line regarding imagination or originality. Actually original ideas are extinct globally.
Reality TV is a sell out comprised of chains of recreated 2 death ideas only. You can create the same format for singers, designers, cooks, then actors and so on...u never run out of desperate people willing to put their lives in front of a camera and humiliate themselves for fame. The whole idea of Reality TV is based on the fact that u don’t technically need producers, directors, script writers...who get a job based on their thinking skills. It's more or less based on your qualifications and ability 2 rake in money from an easily pleased audience. Even with the highest of qualifications u can have the blandest of imaginations but your priority will always be how to make the most money. Star Academy is equal to throwing in a group of monkeys into any room & telling them 2 come up with an idea for TV; and then they come up with the idea of lab rats.
The only original thing to come out of the Middle East fe haza al zaman is...probably something the Jews made. Hell they’ve even ripped off all your Arab recipes and made businesses out of them, we7na 2a3deen zai il sha7ateen moaning about whose idea a FRENCH programme belongs 2. For the love of God it’s a free world, I don’t get why people keep bashing others over breadcrumbs…do u get some kind of satisfaction out of it? if u do u must be disturbed or have a very, very low self-esteem. Anyhow I’m all for Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Yemen, Libya…doing whatever they like. They’ve been excluded for so long along with other nations I may not have mentioned and most of u only sat up and spoke about what they ought 2 do & ought not 2 do about a TV show. No one has said anything about the Moroccan island colonized by Spain, nor the Algerian-Moroc relations.
Anyway Moroccans (like someone above mentioned) have their own style of singing as do Algerians etc. Lbc will never care to choose someone on that basis (North African singing skills); they will only pick on abilities singing with leb or egy dialects. Anyway Khaled 4 instance he is a singer using his own dialect & he’s way more popular than almost all middle-eastern singers. And he did not have to go to the Middle-East first in order 2 get popular.
Woow sam you wrote an article.
You made a lot of good points but we are talking here about a show and what we think about having multiple starac in our part of the world...
nobody wanted to discuss Syrian-Lebanese relation, mazari3 shab3a, Al joulan, the free arms Sinai zone or even the American military compounds all over the map around that part of the world.....we just wanted to talk about some music and what you called it monkeys show idea...that's all.
Likoli maqamin maqal stands to be the golden rule.
Thanks for the info.
That's not my point Tunisian. My point is that Arabic News masalan has never been fair in talkin about Middle-Eastern/ Arabian/ North African countries equally. We've always concentrated on issue such as Palestine (rightly so), Iraq (rightly so), Lebanon (rightly) and Egypt but actually never on the real issues in reference 2 Egy.
What I am saying if u think it through is that Arabic TV has never represented the views of North Africas fully, nor given them their fair share of talk time, nor taken the time 2 understand their daily mashakil. Thus those from the Middle East have less right 2 dictate what those countries North African nations can & can't do especially when it comes 2 something as small & as pointless as TV.
I am Egyptian myself but I find myself angry by the fact that the fools in control of Arab countries are not highlighting Sudans catastrophe enough. Yet if tomorrow Sudan out of the blue said it was gonna do Star academy then all the shabab il 3araby will turn their heads 2 focus on Sudan only 2 say something along the lines of 'oh they r copying and it will fail' w kany w 3elany. Do u get my point? Arabs r big headed unfortunately; there's no 2 ways about it.
Can anyone tell me what they've actually gained in knowledge or education from that show?
P.s. ...'No one has said anything about the Moroccan island colonized by Spain, nor the Algerian-Moroc relations.'
That's the only political sentence I made. And I am strictly talking in regards 2 airtime. Airtime means how long something is broadcast on TV/ Radio tab3an. So in short I am saying many of 'our' nations do not get their rightful quantity of airtime, w bas. Easy peasy. Didn't touch upon those issues u mentioned.
Sam you made go to the bathroom's mirror to check how big my head is? really have close look at it...after careful sizing considerations I'm happy to say yes I see your point. ;)
Sam my friend if you want to buy some milk for example could you honestly think of stopping by your neighborhood library...I hope that answers your last question.
Seriously now you have a point indeed and you made it loud and clear.
Take care.
point taken.
I'm glad that Aljazeera is giving the area a short but exclusive news segment that brings the light at the region's issues.
I believe we should do most of the work and if those big news agencies give some help and consideration we appreciate them.
Again point taken...It's true I took it slightly different than what you meant. Asif ya Sam.
Ya 3am I'm not talking about your head or anyones in specific. I'm talking about those who wish failure upon others and who think their ideas r the greatest lama asasan everything has already been done & overdone kaman. I'm sure your head is beautifully tiny.
I can get milk from the local library. Go on 1 of their computers & online and order it from ai online supermarket. Where there's a will there's a way.
I know you weren't talking about mine. ;)
I liked your online order looool I didn't see it coming.
OK now I have to go. Take care.
Thanx Tunisian I'll check it out.
I can understand what you're saying (SAM) but believe me we can still improve on many fronts
(political ; economic; cultural....)without starting all over again.I mean the americans watch martha stewart ;operah ....and the soapbox operas...the french la ferme ; starac.....
italy grande fratello ; isola dei famosi.....
believe me they're all equally boring programs
of outstanding mediocrity but still they have other bright sides in their lives so let's not blame everything on staracademy lbc ,it's an entertaining program for young talents to show off and the burden remains on our shoulders to progress in other fields of life .they have britney spears and pavarotti at the same time our problem is that we have only haifa.that's why we should seek variety .
i don't like this, it's getting kind of annoying now, i mean i understand why maghreb would probably do a star academy, it was specifically for the morocco, algeria, lybia, and tunisia. but now egypt is doing a star academy? who else, saudi arabia, then dubai, then tunisia, then algeria. it's too much. 1 star academy is good, and 2 is plenty, but 3 is going crazy, they could have just made their own show, not star academy. just lika x factor. anyways. i don't think it would be succesful but if you guys hear anything about where is it going to air, tell me. because i live in the US and i want to make sure a have the channel, yaaay now i will have 3 academies to follow. my dad better get another tv!
Guys Im from Egypt but i doubt .. because here in egypt we dont appreciate these stuf .. home beyhebo barameg el akl aktar men el fan..
by the way law star academy hayet3emel fi masr .. i will make by myself a star academy for Sudan....
Ay Kalam
OK PEOPLE...what is wrong with u...let every country do whatever, and just watch how many audiences there will be for the egyptian star academy...egyptians are the ones that make the academy alive...i know its cool to have students from different countries, but seriously look back at the last 4 seasons u will see who made a difference in the academy's life....
The wierd person who said that Egypt doesnt have enough money to make a good show...well good for u...Amr diab doesnt have enough money for a show? are u kidding me ? and didnt egypt send money to Lebanon during the war...im just wondering where u get ur sources from....
MARWA..AMMA7..HANY U R THE STARS...
FOR those of u idiots that think lebanon pays for star academy/superstar wake up n smell the coffee cuz they dont spend a single penny on the show, nor was the show even their idea
good that EGYPT 3ndaha karama..n good they'll have their own star academy cuz that's where ASL EL FAN IS
if the "lebanon" star academy was fair to its participants each country wouldn't have gone off to start its own academy...sry star academy lebanon ur dying down
Tunisian,
I really admire your post earlier about the LBC star academy promoting low-class level of singing by inviting Haifa Wehbe on their show. I think it's really important to realize that Haifa wehbe is not a valid singer nor is she a talented entertainer. The only reason she's successful is because we let her be. If we all take a stand and refrain from purchasing her albums and attending her concerts, then she wouldn't be in demand. And thus, we will put an end to this vicious cycle of meaningless and vulgar forms of singing.
Thanks,
dania
sorry poeple but u will see day after day that ur staracademyzz wont be succefull trust me, only the starac middle east made it!! no one else could and u will see so dont waste ur time telling stupid things ok
Tunisian wrote a very nice and what seemed like an objective message but, unfortunately, it is not. As many of the messages here they end up clearly driven by ones nationality. That's why you have people from Egypt voting for Sally and nor Shaza, or Saudis voting for Hisham, etc. The old tribal mentality.
Tunisian attacked LBC by saying "Stop laughing at people and think of them as stupid like inviting Laila Gofran and Samira Said and present them as Moroccans while they don't sing, talk or even look Moroccans all a long ignoring all about the real Moroccan music and great singers" yet he didn't use Tunisian singers as an example. Latifa? from 1983-2003 she sang nothing but Egyptian songs, acted in an Egyptian movie and when on Egyptian TV uses the Egyptian accent. Now Latifa is mixing it up with Lebanese and in rare occasions Tunisian. But that's ok she comes after all from Tunis.
Tunisian also states that Samira and Laila do not look Moroccans!! But I guess Latifa looks Tunisian.
Tunisian also writes that "Saber El roba3i is doing great job". Now that's interesting when Saber for a couple of years was part of Alam Al Fan (Egyptian Company that also has Samira)and used same musicians, composers, lyricists that Samira used (Saber does also write some of his songs) and Saber is part of Rotana (singing many songs in Egyptian - at least his video clips) But Saber is doing a good job and the Moroccans are attacked for selling out.
And to show that I'm not picking on Tunisian, another funny message is posted by Algerian Gurl. She is saying "i understand why maghreb would probably do a star academy, it was specifically for the morocco, algeria, lybia, and tunisia. but now egypt is doing a star academy?" hmmmmm !!!!!
Truyalan,
Your right about what you siad in your comment.
About the Arab singers from maghrib a3rabi, I only think they will gain succes if they sing in Egyptian or Lebanese accents, because they rule the music bussines fil a3lam al a3rabi. I wont believe it if a morrocan for example become popular by just singing in morrocan dialect.
Samira Said, Latifa, Saber they all went to Egypt because they know that there they will become more popular, the music industry is located in Egypt and in Lebanon. Most arabs understand egyptian dialect, so therefore it is in their advantage to sing in Egyptian. Egypt offers a lot of possiblties to become succesfull compared with other arab countries.
Also Khaled and Cheb Mami for example they are very popular in their country. But they first became popular in France and other countries of Europe, because they mix their song lyrics with French and Arabic words. Khaled is very popular in Europe and Faudel too who is now singing in French. Later arab singers from Lebanon (mostly) asked them to make a duet with them e.g Faudel and Amal 7ijazi, Diana Haddad and Kahled ..ect.
About the Egyptian star academy issue, where are Arabs going is one Academy not enough? I thaught that if they would go to Lebanon each from different arab countries they would learn things and appriciate other students from other arab countries. But not.
Wallah Arabs are so sophisticated. They always have to prove eachother that one nationality is better then the other one.
Good luck to the Egyptian version od Star ac.
Faysal.
Truyalan
Latifa used to speak egyptian accent but when she was attacked by the press in Tunisia she abstained from that though she uses egyptian words like "bgad, wel 7a2e2a..."lol but it is quite normal because she lived there for many years.. Same thing applies to Samira Said who spent a lot of years in egypt we can't blame her a lot.. but Leyla ghofran hhmmmm
moreover Tunisian didn't attack morocco, he said that its stars do not speak moroccan accent
Saber speaks tunisian accent in his interviews and he sang tunisian songs also not only egyptian and lebanese
by the way not only the moroccan singers do not speak their dialects, even contestants who cotribute to starac sophia, hana, amal... they speak any dialect except moroccan
haya ya tunisian 3ada ija enty etkalem 3la rou7ek lol
yeah STAR ACADEMY EGYPT is great idea.....beside how did u know it won't be successful!!! it will be successful among EGYPTIANS..and that's enough to be successful in other countries....and we have no money..oh my god....MOBILE COMPANIES will fiance it simply!! and they are very very very RICH..and we have no Media...ALMOST successful MUSIC Channels are EGYPTIANS.....!!!!
no one can succeed outside EGYPT...And becomes KNOWN..!!!!!!
beside egyptians have great talents and we can show some of others in that show....
good luck to it ..GREAT IDEA
Truylan
You definitely misunderstood my post.
We were talking about giving a chance to Maghreb music and songs and that's why I used Saber's example and said Nessma TV should do even a better job.
If I ask you what's Maghrebin (not just Moroccan) about Samira Said and Laila Ghofran maybe you wont find more than their passport for an answer but if you ask what's Maghrebin about Saber your answer will be different if you are objective at least you will mention the medely Starac made for Imed,Marwa and Iman...after all there were Tunisian traditional dresses and music...that medley wasn't possible if not exclusively for Saber's effort.
As for Latifa I didn't mention her even though her Tunisian famous songs are way more than Samira and Laila's Moroccan songs put together.
Nevertheless it's not about Maghreb VS Mashreq absolutely not it's about having some self esteem for us as Maghrebin... to be true to ourselves...when we do that we will find a lot more acceptance in the Mashraq than we think we have simply because we have great music styles of course when it's supported by the great voices we have.
All what I'm saying why we hear candidates in Starac sing French, English and even Spanish regularly while we don't hear Maghrebin songs? who really understands French or Spanish in that part of the world? Why the only Moroccan presence is 100% Egyptian and we don't see Latifa Raafat for example? (I just used Morocco as example the same could be true for other countries ).
Egypt and Lebanon have a huge historical advantage since they are the pioneers in the Arab World, I don't know about Moroccans but in Tunisia we grow up starting our days with Fairouz's voice and finishing it with Abdelhalim and Om Kolthom...they are huge part of our musical taste...but we have our own personality and uniqueness that should be respected if not by others at least by ourselves.
So what's the problem when we speak our accent and introduce our songs to the world?!! after all we only understand Egyptian and Lebanese because of their monopoly over music, movies and moslsalat that we keep seeing all the time non stop...is it to much for us to have a chance at least a chance?!
Truylan there is no nationalism in what I've said...I just don't like being NON-EXISTANT because we deserve more...we will keep working for sure we will get there.
Bambusha enti w ismak ezzouz dhamreen :)
Truylan
You definitely misunderstood my post.
We were talking about giving a chance to Maghreb music and songs and that's why I used Saber's example and said Nessma TV should do even a better job.
If I ask you what's Maghrebin (not just Moroccan) about Samira Said and Laila Ghofran maybe you wont find more than their passport for an answer but if you ask what's Maghrebin about Saber your answer will be different if you are objective at least you will mention the medely Starac made for Imed,Marwa and Iman...after all there were Tunisian traditional dresses and music...that medley wasn't possible if not exclusively for Saber's effort.
As for Latifa I didn't mention her even though her Tunisian famous songs are way more than Samira and Laila's Moroccan songs put together.
Nevertheless it's not about Maghreb VS Mashreq absolutely not it's about having some self esteem for us as Maghrebin... to be true to ourselves...when we do that we will find a lot more acceptance in the Mashraq than we think we have simply because we have great music styles of course when it's supported by the great voices we have.
All what I'm saying why we hear candidates in Starac sing French, English and even Spanish regularly while we don't hear Maghrebin songs? who really understands French or Spanish in that part of the world? Why the only Moroccan presence is 100% Egyptian and we don't see Latifa Raafat for example? (I just used Morocco as example the same could be true for other countries ).
Egypt and Lebanon have a huge historical advantage since they are the pioneers in the Arab World, I don't know about Moroccans but in Tunisia we grow up starting our days with Fairouz's voice and finishing it with Abdelhalim and Om Kolthom...they are huge part of our musical taste...but we have our own personality and uniqueness that should be respected if not by others at least by ourselves.
So what's the problem when we speak our accent and introduce our songs to the world?!! after all we only understand Egyptian and Lebanese because of their monopoly over music, movies and moslsalat that we keep seeing all the time non stop...is it to much for us to have a chance at least a chance?!
Truylan there is no nationalism in what I've said...I just don't like being NON-EXISTANT because we deserve more...we will keep working for sure we will get there.
Bambusha enti w ismak ezzouz dhamreen :)
Sorry for double post.
It was a long post by itself....sorry for the double post
Tunisian...who's writing articles now hehee :-).
Anyhow I think u should stop attacking Tunisian coz there's a valid point 2 be made & that is that North Africans deserve more in ALL fields. Look at the Dubai channel or the MBC channel; these are channels that pride themselves on Arab representation. You have both Male/ Female presenters who are Egyptian, Khaleegi, Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanian, Palestinian...and this is inclusive of New broadcasts where actually the traditional Arabic is spoken (so u can't complain about difficulty of understanding dialects such as Moroccan). But where are the North Africans in all of this?
A lot of Arabic food (including Leb and Sham) as well as Arabic/ Islamic architecture was influenced by Moroccan styles, but still we don't give credit where it's due.
Why do we all define 'success' differently? Success is the standard/ limit/ goal an individual wants 2 reach (everyone’s standard/ limit/ goal is personal & we're all different so we all have different aims). So success is when someone accomplishes THEIR aim. Success never meant naga7 in the middle-east or in Europe. Even just 2 succeed locally is a breakthrough. You can't be so greedy with success.
Besides to grow u have 2 start small. These shows don't give people the opportunity 2 start small. They throw u into the limelight 3alatool & u're expected to sell yourself from this opportunity.
It is at least refreshing to know that North Africans are more successful in sporting activities.
Typo,
...and this is inclusive of NewS broadcasts...
Shukran :-)
Typo,
...and this is inclusive of NewS broadcasts...
Shukran :-)
ooops...delete one waleg please. Theres a whole minute between the 1st post & the 2nd post.
Yes Sam I see what you mean.
I was very pleased to see Osama El Mallouli gaining the world championship in 800m lately...It was a pleasure to see a Norht African Arab compete in the highest levels with the best of the world and beat them convincingly...I just loved it equally like other North African sports achievements from Nawal El Motawakak...to El Ahly.
I was even more pleased seeing El Mallouli visiting the beautiful Marrakesh style Starac Maghreb location and spending some time with the candidates....very nice and symbolic.
tunisian
first of all i never said that LBC star academy was creative...i said cant we come with somthing creative (rather than star academy)..like somthing to feed the children dont you think it will be nice??i always respected your comment but when i read your comment here i felt that everyone should make star academy..hey im about to make my own academy..dont you think thats stupid??as for Europe who cares about them??i dont think they have any country hungry or going through wars plus we're different why do we have to copy them in every arabic country come on for gods sake it's only a godamn program i swear if there will be too many academy's the main (LBC)star academy will not be the same if you think this program sucks it's your own opinon but there are million's...billion's people is in love with that program in addicted way's..and by the way if you saw my comment too offensive then i'm sorry i didnt mean no harm we still brothers
peace
Common guys...Dont u see that huge production and absolutely marvelous shows in starac leb. Defenitly their wont be better than starac leb. WE ARE TALENTED=LEB IS PEACE LEB IS CREATIVITY=LEB IS ART
Dania
Sorry I didn't see your post earlier. You are absolutely right we should be clear with such people and not to accept them as singers.
I heard before about the name Haifa but I didn't really know her songs until lately when I received some links for Tunisian candidates in the 4 starac seasons sent to me by a friend...just to compare and see what type of voices been representing Tunisia.
It really bothered me seeing Bahaa, Amani and Marwa sing with that unrecognizable voice. I'm sure other great voices in Starac had to sing with her also...it's really sad.
I don't think people actually pay for her CD's if she even got some...that's why she is almost TV shows regular...as for people paying for her so called "concerts"...I don't want to be rude but people usually find ways to waste their money on somethings they don't respect anyway.
I really wish Starac take advantage of them being in Lebanon and invite Fairouz, Majda, the elegant Julia Botros or the charming Najwa Karam...and a lot more great Lebanese voices...I would love to see all candidate sing their songs.
Thank you Dania.
LliNezS
Thank you for your post. I have said I will love to have only one show for all of us...but it has to be for all of us.
Anyway no body could bad talk Lebanese creativity and professionalism, it's pleasure to watch their work.
I know Egypt will not have a Star Academy simply because endemol the parent company will not licence 2 shows in the middle east. But there is concern and people are not that thrilled that's what I wanted to talk about...
I hope Rola and her team make some adjustments so the show will be for all Arabs...so we could all enjoy and be happy with.
it will be a hit the only reasonlbc gets their money is the votes of egypt and now if there is a staracademy in egypt more famos people would come like nacy agrum and many other people and plus if lebonon gets a war they cant have lbc lbc has no money art has the money
its not about who have money they all have money come on now,,, iam egyptian i would support the show but i wouldnt like it as much as star academy lebanon because star academy lebanon brings people from every where in the arab world people with different cultures and put them toghter and thats exciting to watch but star academy egypt and maghreb can never be as successfull as star academy lebanon
i think the reason why they want another STARACADEMY that is egyptian is mainly becuase; there would deff be no cheating what so ever and it would be a fair contest.. unlike LBC Staracademy that tends to do otherwise..
i think starac LBC should just be for lebanese cuz then they can just give the money to a person from their country and not have to worry about chaning the votes to makes it seem like they got all those votes =]
my opinion <3
I feel star academy Egypt will be successful but I don't think so the same for maghreb
This opinion
Hey gys who said that t will will be a version of staracademy. The article I read actually in a magazine is that Amr Diab is blamed that he does not support the new generation. Accordngly, he decided to make the hit both to defend himself and at the same time he must have been discovered it a great business (Officialy votes went to Shada from only Iraq amounted to US$ 5,000,000 despite voting from all other countries to all candidates. We do we always compare any similar programs to staracademy??? The More important question to be discussed here: DO THE ARAB PEOPLE VOTE FOR THEIR OWN BELOVED CANDIDATES OR DO THEY VOTE FOR THEIR CONTRIES MADELY TO TEASE OTHER COUNTRIES??????????
maha i dont vote for countries in the final prime i voted for carlo cuz he was the best even though i am egyptian
y r some of the people being racist y u guys being racist most of u wouldnt like it if i said something about ur country i agree with u that u r angry coz they r copying lbc star acdemy but still.
well i hope it will work but i don't think so because their not sure about anything and they won't have the money i really hope it will work because sally was funny and i think all the egyptian will be like that,
don't mean egyptian can't do anything or are poor no they do but not for the academy star academy lbc is going to be poor maghreb and egypt have starac are goin gto be higher
I prefer starc LBC.
It brings arab countries together. Starac Egypt, and maghreb sound like protests to me...
This whole starac maghreb and egypt sound to divisive to me. I know starac Lebanon is not perfect buy come onn people. Even though they have a bias towards lebanese candidates Lebanon has won once and thats it. Besides that.
Lets say we make a starac khaleej next. Then a starac for only lebanese. Then a starac Tunisa. Then a starac Jordan...
I don't know I just think one starac uniting arab countries is better then every country having it's own.
stop saying silly words about egypt. why are u jealous? ofcourse it will succeed its egypt omeldonia the first country in the whole world that discovers music. its enough that there wont be cheating. AND DONT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY. SHOFOU NAFSOKO 2EL2AWEL YA FO2ARA.
um all of you are retards!!!
haha of course egypt will be better than LBC. Masr is smarter, has more talent and above all will be WAY more fair. Hani was supossed to win last year not that freak josef...it was rigged FOR SURE!
YAHYA MASR...MASR...MASR!!! Taba3n masr had kon ahsan bekter!!! i am so happy that Amr Diab didnt perform at LBC Star Academy. He is just so much better than that. LBC only has loser performers like Haafa and Massari but they will never live to see the day when Amr Diab or Mohamed Monear go to perform for them.
haha i just laugh at all of you who dout the keen Amr Diab and are afriad of the amazing hidden talent in the AGMAL SHA3B FEL DOWA EL 3RABY....MASR!
The LBC LEbanon have cheated in Staracademy 3 and 4. Do You think that Joseph attia won by 55%. Lebanon votes is very very low. See the votes which tina and carlo got, the same with Shada LBC have cheated. Shada vs sally votes difference was 9% only why she did not get more than 90% at that time, It could have proved that the 7 million iraqi realy voted for shada. God know they have transfered whose vote Ammah's or Marwa's to shada , (they change music to politics) Why this time CNN , BBC etc where there to show the world that Iraqi are enjoing and so on... LBC are running the show with unfairness and cheating. Gaining money from Khaleejins , Egyptian etc..
Egpt starac will succeed provided they invited students from all Arab countries including Lebanon but not to cheat or start praising themselves too much as they always do.
Good luck
i think it would be a hit but not as much as starac leb...iam egyptian datz jus my opinion buh da starac maghrib i have a feeling itz not gon b a big hit
i think it would be a hit but not as much as starac leb...iam egyptian datz jus my opinion buh da starac maghrib i have a feeling itz not gon b a big hit
sureeeeeeeeee 7aykoon gamed moooot .. because egypt hya asl el fan !! 2omal leeh el lebanayen wel 7'aljayeen wel ma3'arbyeen bey3'ano masry !! 3shan masr hya 3andaha tare7' el fan :D:D go egypt!! go amr diab !! ... and ely bey3'ero men masr homa elly bey2oolo eno will not be successful :D:D luv egypttttttttttt