He isn't the wellcom because he knows what he did, to be clear ; what he said.

Turkey wants to integrate the European world while it is compelled to take security measures from snipers for God's sake against an 80 year old man representing the christians.
Are they for real?
Turks should stay in the islamo-arab world which befits them most.
Being European must transcend religiousness, respect human rights, have a strong economy and currency... all of which are points where Turkey fails clamorously.

lebchris
ur right but he also did a bad thing when saying those stuff about muslims i mean he is representing the christains.....anywayz hope hes gonna correct his mistake this time.

"Turks should stay in the islamo-arab world which befits them most.
Being European must transcend religiousness, respect human rights, have a strong economy and currency... "

holdup bro,thats nice we've got a new favourite in town.are you trying to say that islamic (or arabic)people dont respect human rights,they dont transcend religiousness,they dont have a strong economy or currency..oh boy have you got yourself in A PITTLESS dunghole or what.honestly next thing you know your gonna get a queue of people just wanting 'to whop yo ass'.

let me clarify my opinion about what you just said.firstly,people aka human beings dont respect human rights depending on their COLOUR,ETHNICITY,RELIGION OR BACKGROUNDS.as individual human beings we each act towards that humane element in us which some humans might use wisely and which some humans(these days,most cases) discard.so you've hit the racial hatred point here and this shows you are the one,lebchris,who immorally and unethically doesnt have respect for humans and their rights(which include:cultural,religious and ethical ones).

To Aussigal
Typical Arabi reaction: snapping back at criticism without giving any proofs and drowning in denial.
Name me one Arab state that respects human rights, that have a strong currency on the world scene and that is not fanatical about its religion and never oppressed other religious minorities?
Instead of dreading criticism, try to acknowledge it.

To Lebchris
Typical medieval reaction: rejecting a country to join a continent because of religion and wealth- tutt tutt. Wasn't it Greece that remained the poorest of all European countries till a flare of luck with the Olympics gave them a flicker of hope? Isn't it the whole of Eastern Europe that is flocking to the Western European countries in order to seek jobs (and not to be spiritually enlightened)? Economically strong! Why not let’s divide Europe so that just Western Europe remains to be the Entire European continent. Hmmm respecting Human Rights yes aren't u wise...have u heard about the American jails or the state of poverty for particularly Black Americans in the US of A? You'll probably so wisely emphasise that you were addressing European Human Rights and not American ones. Isn't Europe America's best friend? Have you ever seen the state of Human Rights for the Eastern European countries? Or are you just so consumed by France, Italy, Spain, Germany and the UK- coz that’s most peoples idea of Europe.

Do you even know the ratio of Christians to Atheists now in Europe? A great portion of born Christians don’t believe in anything and choose to be faithless, or do they count as Christians too?

Now let’s analyse how you addressed Europe to be a Christian continent without using History as an excuse:
-Britain no longer uses the ‘Church of England’ for any of its governing.
-France rejects ALL symbols of Faith including Christianity.
-Now what does that leave? Ah Germany- such a pleasant record they have too- Got rid of Jews coz they were so wanting to keep Europe Christian- U must be proud of the Nazis. And ironically Hitler’s father was Jewish- Remind me again how a Jewish descendant got into power in a Christian continent? You must be even prouder that USA and UK decided to make a Jewish nation amongst the Arabs. And by the way Turkey is not an Arab nation!!!
-Cyprus- Why is it even part of Europe? Too poor & too many Muslims I say.
- Spain- Isn’t there best architecture either built by Muslims or Islamic influenced? They ought to have obliterated everything and made it all more European right?

You’re an ageist to say that someone shouldn’t be criticised because of their age! Of course they should be if they choose to be in a position of employment and a very high position of employment then they’ll be criticized till their dying day and rightly so. Let’s all sympathise for all 80+ world leaders shall we- because they’re so frail & in need of our sympathy. Bet you don’t have the same attitude towards Castro.

*Spain- Isn’t their...

Let me address human rights + Christianity for u one more time...

South America...NO COMMENT!
Africa...Probably more Christians than Europe! War-torn, hungry, corrupt Christian leaders too. RAPED BY EUROPEAN GREED! If European governing and law had a shred of Humanity they would have made up for allll of what they stole from Africa, South America and India and anywhere else they set their filthy hands on.

Asia...More Christians including 30 million (statistic provided by European Church) in China. China- don't they have one of the worst records in Human Rights?

OHH and let's not forget Russia- I won't even venture to talk about Russia but you can count that along with East Europe.

You just have to get it into your head that humans no matter what religion they are...DO WRONG and it is never down to religion. It is down to their mentality, perhaps their suffering and it's not for you or me to judge what we can't see.

thankyou sam...im glad we think alike towards this matter and you have pointed out nearly everything i wanted to say.i told you lebchris you were gonna get your ass wacked round here.

"Typical Arabi reaction: snapping back at criticism without giving any proofs and drowning in denial."

you're the one whos critisizing without having any evidence to back you up.you have critisized and what you said is also open to critisizm so cut the crap.there are my 'proofs'= the gulf states are the richest in the world no doubt about that.jordan is becoming a 'paris' in the middle east.lebanon would've been better if no political organizations or countries decided to tear it apart.as for respecting human rights im still sticking with my opinion and thats that respecting human rights doesnt come to which religion or country you are, you racist scumbag, but it comes to the context of you're character.example=racist person leading a racist party resulting in a racist government.maybe you should be a bit more clearer about that 'human rights' issue you're trying to slam us with.lets begin a little research here about europe and the validity of what you were saying.Britain,USA and europe started the whole slavery campaign and only ended it in what..the early 1900s...WOW i mean isnt that a bit EARLY????!!!!!.lets not forget hitler's racist regime which wiped out 6 million jews,communists,h*o*m*osexuals,gypsies etc in EUROPE.lets not forget stalin(Russia)whos the biggest massmurderer in history since he,in turn, wiped out 20 million Russiansin EUROPE.lets not forget the genocide Serbians made when they murdered hundreds of thousands of muslims in EUROPE.i could keep going on and on about Europe's record of respecting human rights and you're being such a hypocrite.the smartest thing you can do in a situation like this is to stop posting and gather sufficient information to be able to compare the middle east to europe when it comes to the issue of respecting human rights..oh and you might want to use some grammar and spelling lessons for starters.

im anxious to see your 'european' reaction and ill backfire inturn because ive got that 'typical arabi reaction'...dufus.

If you are so impressed with the economical and human right records of your arab muslim world then why are you emigrated in australia you double-crossing hypocrit.
Why didn't you move into prosperous respectful countries like Djibouti, Yemen, or Libya to lead a nice life huh?

because,fatass,my father got a better work opportunity here than in the emirates...which was like 25 years ago so you might wanna shove a sock in there.incase you still dont get it i was born in perth and people dont just immigrate because of political or economical problems..my dad partly came here because he married an Australian-Venezuelan woman who happens to be my mom.djibouti,yemen,and libya arent prosperous but that doesnt mean they make up the middle east as a whole.yemen is a small country in he middle east and libya and djibouti arent even in the middle east smartass so you might want to go over what you've written.just because you're a muslim that wouldnt necessarily mean you're an arab.as an example,there are thousands of Bosnian muslims in Europe.adding to that why wouldnt they be respectful?..is it because they're not rich?they're drowning with poverty?shut the f up.im not impressed or dissatisfied with the arabic-islamic record of the middle east but i dont like hearing people saying shit about these countries when they don't even know how irrational what the're saying is.oh and have you actually answered any of the questions and key issues about human rights in Europe me and Sam have brought up?..maybe you should work on it. you biased hypocritical little shit stop watching fox news and spend some time watching BBC, do yourself a favour and educate yourself before you start ranting about things which arent even a quarter right.

oh to waleg; sorry about the swearing bits but i cant honestly help myself especially when im talking to racists who cant even bring an argument to back them up properly.

Just pathetic irrelevant answers.
You girl have to learn some manners first.
No need to answer all your ranting because you are a biased racist in denial with very bad english.
So from now on I would just ignore you and go back to the initial topic.
Turkey needs to stick with the muslim-arab world it duly belongs to.
Joining the group of European countries does not befit it. It is still treating horribly its prisoners, oppressing harshly the kurds and still did not acknowledge the Armenian genocide.
Moreover, the Pope did not insult, he was misunderstood and apologized for the misinterpreted stance.
Still, measures are taken for protecting him against snipers, most probably because the last pope, the symbol of peace, was shot by another Turk.
Turkey is not evolved yet to the standards of the respect of human rights, and should be more withing the group of Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and company rather than France, Italy, Germany.
It needs some more growing and much more secularism.

hmmmm...alright then i wont swear because theres no point.but wait it seems like you're repeating things i directed towards you by saying 'No need to answer all your ranting because you are a biased racist in denial with very bad english.'ive made my point clear and you're a person who cannot understand or accept other people's views which is fair enough because that is a characteristic which suits onesided ignorant people.my answers arent irrelevant because ive argued what you've mentioned in you first post which is very much racist if you havent noticed:"Turks should stay in the islamo-arab world which befits them most.
Being European must transcend religiousness, respect human rights, have a strong economy and currency... "
you've completly ignored what me and others have brought up about Europe's 'human rights' history.you've avoided answering questions or even firing back a key points we've brought up.ive said all i have to say and ive actually had enough with you.oh and just a tip before i leave:dont say things ive already said to you by saying them to me..try making up some of your own comebacks.

No need to answer the stupid Arab broken record of the European atrocities, for these atrocities happened many years ago.
Arabs and Muslims are still committing them, Darfur and Iraq are one of the examples.
After waging their wars and practicing their racist laws Europeans matured and came to a point where they rectified all that, granted rights to refugees, adjusted their economies, amended their human rights status and aknowledging their mistakes. No one is born perfect, but the real virtue is to admit one's mistakes and move forward.
Europe, that is the European Union, not the people who live in Europe like the Serbs and the Albanians who still have decades of growing to do, transcended religiousness, defined the role of the church outside politics, granted refugees and people from former colonies citizenship and the right to worship for people from different religious background and boosted their economies reducing thus poverty to great extents.
The Turks still have not admitted killing one million armenian, they are still massacring the kurds and their economy is in shambles. Moreover they threaten Christian clergy when the slightest occasion arise.
As for the lame argument that the gulf state are the richest among the world, that richness is only due to natural ressources, that are going to be depleted sooner or later. In the last international report on human growth and living standards, the gulf stated though ranking the highest in the middle east, ranked on the level of Mexico and other poor states of the western world. Which means that these people still thrive on their oil with not much going on on the level of human growth.
Saying all that, I reiterate the fact that Turkey belongs more to the axis of backward state than to the one of futuristic Europe.
Europe that evolved after many dark centuries, versus the oriental world that is now living its dark centirues, in denial to top it all!

iN MY OPiNiON-HE'S NOT WELCOME AT ALL. HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE DiD TO THE MUSLiM PEOPLE && WHAT HE SAiD AND ii SERiOUSLY DONT CARE WHO THE HELL HE iS...HE HAS HiS OWN RELiGON AND WE HAVE OURS. SO HE SHOULD MOST DEFF. STAY OUTTA iT.
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Oh typical ignorant reaction from Alisar.
Could you please Ms. Alisar enlighten us about what the Pope said or "did"?
Just show us the extent of your fanatism and ignorance, yalla go ahead...

I want to point something out to you Mr Lebanese-Christian. The first religion in Europe was not Christianity. The first religions were cults based on statue worship. Look up Stonehenge for a small example. Therefore the Muslims have as much right to leave as the Christians do. Look at the Aborigines and the Native Americans- they certainly are not nor never were Christians yet they are the original founders of land conquered once again by Christians. Why are Native Indians not eligible to be presidents or governing powers of those countries? Because it is Christian leaders who have disempowered all those cultures and eliminated their identity as the true founders of a motherland.

Your knowledge is very limited to 'Arabs & Muslims committed atrocities'. Listen son you are talking to Arabs & Muslims when you enter into this forum. If you are so stuck on your opinions and are only using this spectrum as a place to vent your anger with meek arguments then you're better of going into the Yahoo chat room for Christians to have chatters with your mentality compliment you on your arrogance. Otherwise try to be a bit more flexible in your thinking.

Darfur and Iraq are problems which were fuelled by America and its pre-colonial allies. Don't ever forget where Saddam got his money and weapons in the first place. And don't ever forget that what America has done is conquer a land AGAIN in the shape of Iraq & in the shape of Darfur. Perhaps Darfur is yet to be raped but the USA military but they certainly have a big magnifying glass hanging over the area. Go and do some research instead of depending on Western Movies and bias news or websites for your resources. Find out how many countries have been bombed by the very Christian United States of America- which by the way is much more Christian than Europe. You will find a total close to 40 countries bombed to shreds by the Americans and many of those bombed are fellow Christian countries, or ones which are not of the sister religions such as Japan or Colombia.

If you wanna put the Holocaust aside, let’s talk about Japan (Non-Muslim) & the atomic bombs thrown on Hiroshima and Nagasaki by once again the very Christian Americans wiping out floods of Japanese civilians as well as spreading deadly radiation into their country. How about the more recent Vietnam?

We acknowledge that Muslims have done wrong without understanding the true nature of Islam, but when your little friends set foot into our countries and commit atrocities then they surely deserve retaliation but they never get it in a just manner. That said Muslims have never felt the need to be colonial, and historically never have been so. Christians on the other hand have always been colonial. They threw the Jews out of the Middle East as Romans, and threw them back in as veterans of War and destruction and now they are watching matters unfold whilst making false promises.

How many Indians did the British army kill and humiliate during their 400 years of colonialism? Bet you can’t even begin to comprehend how many Indians Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Buddhists and many of their other religions were victims.

Muslims do more wrong to each other then they do to anyone else. Followers of Christendom have a popular nature of threatening and killing anyone who comes in their way. Only they do it in a way of sleaze by taking all possible precaution- having television coverage on their side for starters and I only apply that to Western power, military and media/paparazzi rather then the entire body.

You’re in denial yourself whilst asserting that we are the ones who should wake up. Where’s the sense you are making? Your fellow Christians in South America hate the Americans and the Europeans regardless of preaching the same faith- only their misfortune lies in the that they do not have the same levels of coverage the Americans + Europeans. Haven’t you ever heard how many European Politicians criticize the West? Haven’t you heard about all the European Christians who come to Islam? When one misguided Muslim decides to turn to Christianity, Christians think Christmas has come and splash the news all over the papers. We have 500 in the USA alone taking as interest in our very sensible and rational religion (which answers all questions scientifically and logically without the use of Mystery as an excuse to unanswered questions) but we never make a field day out of it. Speaking of which, almost 9000 people convert to Islam annually in the United Kingdom. Try imagining how many convert in the rest of Europe, and then ask yourself why they do that whilst they have all the freedom Europe has to offer.

Speaking of Darfur, why are the Americans there again? Isn’t it something 2 do with its prospectus future with all that oil recently discovered? Wasn’t it America who threw a bomb on a factory in Sudan making the world believe it had Chemical weapons of Mass destruction? Only afterwards it was revealed that it was in fact a factory for Medicine- Sudan never did get an apology did they? And now the bombers have returned- I’m sure the Sudanese are very happy with their very Christian self-invited guests.

At least we are not zoning in on whichever land we can take advantage of and them make cover up stories and hypocritical lies of corruption and televised ‘axis of evil’ announcements. Why were America making such a fuss about Mugabe- suddenly they’ve already forgotten about him. What about Korea why haven’t they dealt with it considering it is supposedly proven to have wmd. And tell me why India and Pakistan and Israel are allowed to have wmd again?

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...by the USA military but...
...lies in the fact that they do not ...
...taking an interest in our...
...and then making up cover stories...

yes I am fussy :-) !

"This is our calling. This is the calling of the United States of America. The most free nation in the world. A nation built on fundamental values that reject hate, reject violence, rejects murderers and rejects evil. We will not tire."
President George W Bush

List of countries the USA has bombed since the end of World War II:

China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Libya 1986
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991-2002
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Croatia 1994 (of Serbs at Krajina)
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998 (airliner)
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia 1999
Afghanistan 2001-02

Not including military recklessness like ITALY 1998 "20 killed by US warplane in cable car" or CHINA 2001 "Chinese military pilot killed by spy plane collision" and not including 'proxy' bombings of Iraq by Israel in 1981 using sixteen US made F15 bombers and brand new F16 fighter bombers

"We are by far the most violent nation on earth. We have the highest numbers of rape and murder in the world and incarcerate the greatest percentage of our citizens. We are the largest producer and exporter of weapons of mass destruction and have the world's biggest military budget comprising 36 percent of the total world military spending and gobbling up more than 50 percent of our own national budget" Yellow Times- regarding usa

However, added to this figure of 22 would be at least 18 other countries which were on the receiving end of bombing during the two World Wars, such as Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Hungary, Italy, Tunisia, Greece, Austria, Romania, Japan, Thailand, Nauru, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, the Marshall Islands, Singapore, and the Phillipines.

So in total there have been AT LEAST 40 countries.

Colombia was my mistake so take that back.

To Frustrated and irrelevant Sam.
Arabs are so funny. You speak about something they start lecturing you about totally something else, blaming all the miseries of the world on the CIA nad returning back to pagan times.
Haram. You are pathetic
Read well before blabbering.
I spoke about TURKEY, a country striving to be secular to enter the EUROPEAN UNION, a SECULAR NON-CHRISTIAN ENTITY, who has set rules of human right respect and economical, judicial and law standards to integrate.
I did not talk about the US.
I still sustain that Turkey fits more with Syria Iran and the likes rather the EUROPEAN UNION.
Got it son?
Boy you Arabs need to learn some concentration and objectivity.
No wonder you are still going backwards.

Well I surely hope I am irrelevant to someone like u. You're very much a fascist and one does not like to associate with your kind. Illhamdulil’allah for having loved ones, it’s more then enough for me.

The only person who hasn't got a shred of objectivity is you. You really are limited in your vision. Whoever mentioned the CIA?

You Arabs, you Arabs, you Arabs...how rude, don't you even realize the words you are using to be offensive? Don't Arabs strike you as being people? You're a really, really disrespectful person. You have answered 3 females in here in an utterly disgraceful manner son. Backwards forwards, it doesn't matter where we are going as long as we maintain our dignity. You on the other hand keep going forward and let's see how far you go.

All of the masters of History, Science, Maths and Architecture and so on originate from the past anyway, as do your ancestors so where is the shame in being associated with the past? You're a common species. Trust me what you have said we have all heard thousands of times out of desperation to prove that you are a better then us. It’s always done in the same repetitive, discourteous and frankly quite boring and uneducated manner. That’s how you all retaliate: you ignore all my arguments by being offensive and emphasizing Turkey again when you've been attacking Arabs and Islam all the way through your speech. Therefore if I begin to open the subject you snap, if you do it then it’s ok.

If Turkey is so boring then why is it one of the biggest holidaying destinations for Europeans? Have you ever been to Turkey? Doubt it you seem too snobby to consider Turkey.

Anyway listen, no one agrees with you and that’s all that matters in its entirety Lebanese Christian. How do you know I am frusterated, I'm the calmest person in the world- I just make manage to make more sense then you do.

Haram. You are pathetic

Haram: that's an Arabic word is it not? Why are you using it Latin boy?

Aahahahah
More frustration and irrelevant comment.

"You're a really, really disrespectful person. You have answered 3 females in here in an utterly disgraceful manner son. Backwards forwards, it doesn't matter where we are going as long as we maintain our dignity. You on the other hand keep going forward and let's see how far you go."
Who told you I am a male to start with? Did you read what the respectful females on this forum STARTED saying to deserve their due reply?
Then who said Turkey was boring?
You are inventing arguments boy, just for the sake of talking.
Turkey is a destination mainly because it is not expensive and have a couple of things to see, but so does Thailand or the Mauritius. That does not earn them a status in the European union. A topic you managed beautifully in not sticking to.

You manage to make more sense then I do :)))
Lol, you are funny.
You have just written three papers, talking about different topics to vent out your frustration against the "christian" world whatever that may be.

Back to the topic, (recapitulation) Turkey must be real secular and stop shooting popes and clergy to enter the EUROPEAN UNION. Otherwise let it stick to "evolved" and civil countries like Syria and the lot where it would fit in like a glove.

Oh and Sam, go get a life, ktir heik

"Haram: that's an Arabic word is it not? Why are you using it Latin boy?"

Walaw ya zalameh, de2it bi 3aynak kelmeh bel 3arabeh.
Then, why are you lecturing in english, Arab boy?
You're so full of contradictions. Just sad.

Go and do some research about Turkish Christians, even they will attempt to convince your baba to join the Union. Why have you got such a chip on your shoulder anyway? Are you jealous that Turks are gonna break the mould before your nation?

Are you even a citizen member of the European Union or just isolated in your bedroom? Turkey is not cheap. Costs don't depend on destinations unless they are across the border. Otherwise they depend on the Airline!

I did not state anything about Arabs or talking Arabic or English in relation to myself. Bil 3aks some of the most intelligent people alive are Brits and I respect them dearly regardless of faith. I respect many Leb & Palestinian Christians too but the ones I know talk with a lot more sense then you. I don't even read what you have to say, just skim read it. You clearly insulted Arabs- the owners of the Arabic language which you're speaking. I'm British and I haven't resorted to racism towards Brits so I'll speak English- mazagy ya 7elwa.

You're in denial and desperate boy. Alisar didn't even address u and u attacked like u were gunning for ai forsa. E7taramy nafsik ya bett aw ya walad & stop typing laughter foolishly. But really and realistically you have not replied to anything I've said and I haven't made any contradictions because I've just stated Historical facts. I'm not arrogant to just give my opinion because I know it's not enough...you are just going on opinion. You haven't even visited Turkey yourself.

alright im confused here but what i do understand is that lebchris,whether male or female,did infact start this argument by insulting the arabs and muslims and saying they were ignorant of human rights,currency,money etc.lebchris,you need to apologize because you've crossed a line and now you're saying that the others who have posted here have started this argument when ive read,right from the top,all the posts and it is YOU apparently who needs to learn some manners and stop being such a racist git.thankyou very much.sam and aussie gal i applaud you.btw i think you should bomb this guy(or girl)in retaliation until he/she realizes that their argument is infact weak.

ps. nice statement aussiegal:let me clarify my opinion about what you just said.firstly,people aka human beings dont respect human rights depending on their COLOUR,ETHNICITY,RELIGION OR BACKGROUNDS.as individual human beings we each act towards that humane element in us which some humans might use wisely and which some humans(these days,most cases) discard.so you've hit the racial hatred point here and this shows you are the one,lebchris,who immorally and unethically doesnt have respect for humans and their rights(which include:cultural,religious and ethical ones).

Lebchris,
you’re such an idiot man whatever you are a pig man or slat man, you need to stop for calling us some *** cause were better than you slat man.//
I agree Larissa and Sam, you guys know how to show him what the real arab are.
Oh lebchris! get a life.//

lebchris..you seem to be an arab...yet you keep insulting arabs..i dont get it?

you seem to be 'pro' human rights yet you're a complete racist...i dont get it?

you seem to support a democracy yet you are unwilling to accept how people practice their faith(wearing the hijab) which is an essential part of a democracy..i still dont get it?

you owe these guys an apology.thats the least you can do.so far you've been a hypocrite,a jerk,a racist,a facist,and an extremist.

waleg i think you should ask this 'lebchris' person to apologize or you should block him/her from posting.thankyou.i will contact waleg personally to block you if he doesnt respond.

i cannot believe the amount of racism this person has shown on this board.good work sam,aussiegal and larissa.God its hard to maintain peace among these barbarian people like Lebchris.thats what the world should get rid off ..people like YOU.btw to correct you statement about the richness of the arab world,the gulf states dont USE their natural resoures.the gulf states sell it to western countries in order to get money and thus build resorts,buildings etc.to attract tourists and as a result get wealthy.nice strategy wouldnt you say?

as arabs,despite lebchrist being a racist,i think we should all stick together to make better off our situation and negotiate as muslims,kurds,christians etc.

hyel ebchris,heres a website were you'll find alot of racists posting its called,IMDB;type in the search machine George W Bush.NOW GOTO HELL.

Sam,I reiterate, you are a complexed fellow, who needs the slightest spark to lash out at the Christian world, if such a thing exists.
You still have not given me ONE useful argument about the topic I raised.
I talked about the EUROPEAN UNION, you talked about the Serbs and the Americans.
I talked about Turkey not fit to join a world it did not belong to, and you start blabbering irrelevant matter.
You make presumption about my person, where I did not go, where I am supposed to be, and you have not the slightest clue about who I am, where I live, or where I have been too.
So far in this post I have read irrelevant and/or stupid and biased comments, and very long ones too, that did not provide an interesting conversation for the topic I commented about.
You listed the atrocities about the "Christian world" (though Christianity never preaches holy wars and stuff) regardless of the fact that nations (of all faiths) use religions as another alibi to conquer the weaker.
Then I loved your arguments about the world being pagan, which gives the right to Christian or Muslims to conquer. LOL. Then why are you complaining about christian americans invading Iraq, or the crusades in the holy lands? It was pagan anyway so what the heck, let them conquer it, right? What a silly logic.
Back to Turkey. Turkey still have a long way to join the standards of the European UNION.
Acknowledging it has slaughtered one milliuon Armenians and Christian turks in organized genocide, settling the Cypriot problem, easing out on the Muslim kurds, adjust the way it treats prisoners and moreover redress its disastrous economy. I don't know if you have noticed on the window shops there the ridiculously long price tags, only an indicator of a week currency. Their salaries and living standards are exactly the same in Lebanon, who happens to be an impoverished nation with virtually no industry, 40 million debt, and now thanks to Hassouna and his miscalculated unilateral wars, its tourism is dead. If Turkey wants to become European indeed, it should do better than that.
As for the poor Alisar you are defending, she is unjustly criticizing the symbol of my faith.
Why are you entitled to lash out on me for (justly) assuming that Arabs and muslims are retards and you do not entitle me to defend my Pope against an ignorant?
Needless to remind you that such kind of ignorance has caused vandalism in Beirut less than a year ago, destroying the main commercial center and attacking people in church at mass time, as well as shooting a priest in lovely Turkey and a nun in Somalia few months ago.
I thought you where preaching democracy.
As for the timeline of Islamic atrocities, obviously no one post or page can fit them all. I can refer you to useful websites, if you want to delve into this irrelevant matter.
I reiterate, Turks are oriental people especially on the negative side and they should stick with the bunch on their eastern borders as they look more compatible together.

To Ahmed "Showed me what real Arabs are"
Lol. In this case, ill-mannered and fanatic. Good for you. Continue this way.
Larissa wants to block me. Give me one convincing argument. Is this democracy? Blocking people who differ from you?
Who can blame you, all arab regimes are built on that logic. So your case is hopeless.
Oh about the gulf countries, yes it is indeed cool to be lazy and sell your natural resources. However the resources are depleting and one day they will wake up to find it gone.
If they do not use it to boost their human indicator they are going to fall hard on their noses someday.
Last but not least I reiterate: the conversation in this post proves what I have always believed: Arabs will not get any better, as long as they are in denial and think their current situation is cool. As long as they want to keep their critics at bay and muffle them they will always remain the retards they are.
Yalla bye. Get a life you all. Oh and Turkey is still a loooooooooooong you from becoming European

so are you, you lebanese retard.go solve your own issues and change them before dreaming of becoming a 'european'.you crazy git,you wish you're not an arab when infact arabs are privileged not to associate with people like you.aslan mafi hada mitlak ya wati.we need to unite in times like this when there are unloyal and treacherous people like you threatening to break us up.

'Larissa wants to block me. Give me one convincing argument'

hmm lets see,okay here are heaps of arguments EVERYONE seems to agree on:you're a racist,you're facist,you're a onesided bastard,you're narrow minded,you rant too much,you think you're superior,you're too much of a hypocrite as ameena also stated.hmm i guess that sums it all up.

'Oh about the gulf countries, yes it is indeed cool to be lazy and sell your natural resources. However the resources are depleting and one day they will wake up to find it gone.'

so you agree it is a startegic idea.yalla wa7di 3ala wa7di next thing youll know ya shabab this guy will give in to what we say in systematic levels.firstly,it isnt the arabs fault western countries are too greedy to level their demands on oil. oil-thirsty bastards, isnt it enough ???ma bikafy that they're stealing oil from countries which they have torn apart.ridiculous.the depletion isnt because of arab countris its because of your beloved euro-americano countries.

'I talked about Turkey not fit to join a world it did not belong to, and you start blabbering irrelevant matter.'

who said it wanted to?they just wanted to protect the pope and you brought up this whole argument about them wanting to join the union.whats so good about joining them anyway?theyve just recently turned 'democratic' after a long sleep of barbarism and totalitarianism.sam and aussiegal are right in stating everything europe is negatively famous for when it comes to human rights since thousands of years.

'So far in this post I have read irrelevant and/or stupid and biased comments, and very long ones too, that did not provide an interesting conversation for the topic I commented about.'

judging on reading all the posts,everyone agrees that you are the one who has mentioned irrelevent,stupid,biased and long comments that dont provide any interesting conversations for the topic at hand.you have ignored key issues aussiegal,ameena,larissa and sam have brought up.

(though Christianity never preaches holy wars and stuff)

yeah not to mention THE CRUSADES EH??

'Needless to remind you that such kind of ignorance has caused vandalism in Beirut less than a year ago, destroying the main commercial center and attacking people in church at mass time, as well as shooting a priest in lovely Turkey and a nun in Somalia few months ago.'

all this long jabbering needs to stop.havent you heard of extremists?there are bloody extremists in any religion who are more likely to kill 30 priests than 1 or kill 50 nuns than one.

'As for the timeline of Islamic atrocities, obviously no one post or page can fit them all. I can refer you to useful websites, if you want to delve into this irrelevant matter.'

list some.im ready.if you compare all the atrocities committed by christian countries against muslim countries then this is going to be one 'helluva' road trip because i can list 50 times what you're offering.bring it on shitface.

'Turkey still have a long way to join the standards of the European UNION.
Acknowledging it has slaughtered one milliuon Armenians and Christian turks in organized genocide, settling the Cypriot problem, easing out on the Muslim kurds, adjust the way it treats prisoners and moreover redress its disastrous economy'

christian serbs(now DONT YOU TRY TO RUN AWAY SONNY )have also organized a systematic genocide burying tons of muslims alive.you've avoided the matter of serbia and montenegro saying they arent european..what kind of ignorance is that?look up the world map.count how many countries are in the EU...or should i provide a source for you?

'Then I loved your arguments about the world being pagan, which gives the right to Christian or Muslims to conquer'

i thought you said our arguments werent 'interesting' enough for you.hypocrite.how many times has everyone mentioned this word lol this is shitlessley funny dude you're held at gunpoint...haha it is true though since you'e managed to prove it yourself)

'Why are you entitled to lash out on me for (justly) assuming that Arabs and muslims are retards and you do not entitle me to defend my Pope against an ignorant?'

BUT YOUVE STARTED the lashing FIRST!!!youve lashed out at muslims and arabs and everyone is entilted to harass you because thats racist.tell me how you want to 'protect' you're pope exactly?i thought he was already being prepared for protection in turkey.plus, i mean,seriously,each to own his faults.if he had'nt discriminated agianst muslims over pathetic little reasons like a quote of a 50 thousand year dead byzantianian chistian emperor(who by the way,wouldve hated the prophet Mohamamd in a biased way ANYWAY)then he wouldnt NEED protection at all.pope john Paul was loved by muslims..well,all i can say is that he was loved by me....and so was mother Teresa..but not this pope who seems to newly represent such a wide religion yet underestimating his level of importance,he decides to disrespect the world's fastest growing religion which is a home of more than 1 billion people by saying something so out of context (the 60 million year old quote lol).

'now thanks to Hassouna and his miscalculated unilateral wars'

wasnt he the guy who won you the war of independance from israel and the second war of 2006.shouldnt he be the guy you should thank right now for defending your country agianst a massive nuclear advanced army which killed hundreds of thousands of children in your native lebanon(you dont deserve to be called lebanese though)?his 'miscalculated' wars drove out your bitter enemy,israel.you should thank your stars for that.

'Arabs will not get any better, as long as they are in denial and think their current situation is cool'

arent you an arab..ya hadrit el lebanese basha?mwahahahahahaaha how would they think their current situaion is 'cool' ya 3ami shoo hal alfaz hay??why dont you use better words to describe what you're saying in future ay?!tell me anyway,back to the amusingly funny subject,how do they think the situation is 'cool'?

'As long as they want to keep their critics at bay and muffle them they will always remain the retards they are.'

well same goes to you good ol' christians,as long as you want to keep your critics(A.K.A ARABS AND MUSLIMS)at bay and 'muffle' them,you will always remain the blood-thristy,power-thirsty,money-thristy,retards you are.

'Yalla bye.'
id rather you not use arab words since you hate the whole concept of the existence of arabs.

wahid el brains tab3oonoh darbeh bilmara.

get your words right before you put your foot in your mouth again.

looking forward for your COMMENTS(adding in a little Jim Carrey impression)

ps.you've confused Larissa with Ameena on the matter of Waleg blocking you...which just increasingly proves how you don't even seem to have your head in the proper direction.yalla bi3een alla.lets get rid of him guys and FAST.i swear i am sooooo pumped up for this.BRING IT ON.

Listen leprechaun!

We are Arab!
We have a dream!
We have a future to success way better than you.
Yeah sometimes we’re stupid, but no one cant beat us.
We are Arab!

Ahhaaaa lebchris, so I guess you’re the loser./

Ahmed...that was of no necessity and had absolutely nothing to do with the issues being discussed.it is ignorant of you to think like that.please dont embarass the rest of us.however i think i do understand were you are getting at but theres no need to be so proud.we as arabs,inorder to respect ourselves,need to respect others(racists excluded)who are not necesarrily like us.

when will you answer my queries lebchris huh?took you a bit long..im overloading with confusion.

to lebchris,since you called yourself a critic..let me give yo the proper definition to keep you informed and to notify you that you are not.

A "critic" is someone who criticize the way you drive but him/herself doesn't know how to. A personnal insult thrown to someone/thing is the attempt of a desperate mind devoid of anything to say with substance.

and you,my friend,threw a personnal insult at Islam and arabs.

you*

well..theres still no response from this lebchris.oh well..were still waiting.you can run but you cant hide.

To LEBRESH
Why do you think americans are invading the arabic world?
It's because, first we are rich and second and this is the most important, because they are afraid from us.

yeah you might wanna add freakin douche bags as well to that statement zeynab.this guy is defeated.he wont come back because he knows he got hammered,theres overwhelming evidence presented by me and fellow people on this board against him.