what waleg?there is no subject to be post or what? what is the point of posting such issue?i dont understand what we should comment on it,this is the Egyptian president over 26 years and most of the Egyptian suppoorting him with their heart and soul and blode,while the minorities who r participating in some hateful political parties who want to take his place by cheating and trying to destroy our president image "which is never gonna happened encha allah" ..but still wonder what is this topic or what u r waitting to be commented here??? i thonk Hosny Mubarak is the president of one of the most important Arab country in the world,and should be respected,and if i was wrong,can u tell me why in specific u select him?u have syria,lebanon,saudi arabia,jordan...ect,i cant understand ur point of posting such an issue,please be more accurate,the president Mubarak is selected by elections and won it by 80%"majority for sure",so this case is already determined i think and even if his son well be the president i think this is happened in syria and jordan and other arabic countries,msh haga ghariba ya3ny!!1

nouza,

Obviously you didn't read the article! The reason Zayed wrote this article is because its in the news..., its your president 25th Anniversary!!! I suggest that you tell why you love president Hosny Mubarak and mention his achivements for example...

There is nothing with the article that could offend you :|!!!

sorry waleg

i was nervous coz in the Article of sabah a commentor insulted Mr. Hosney Mubarak and said "kato nila" without any reason while the article was about the big artist Sabah,so i got so nervous when i came to reply for his last comment and i found that it was the last to be post,and when i saw the article concerning Our Presiden Hosney Mubarak i misunderstand the topic,i really appreciate that u post this topic to let the real egyptians say why we love our president Mubarak,while there r minority who wants to destroy his image hatefuly..and i promis to get most of his achivements and i ll collect all the info concerning that "not for sure all of them coz his achivements cant be counted for the 26 years,but at least the most well known...and sorry again waleg but u cant imagine when u love ur president and a certain person insult him without any reason,just put his name and insult him wich made any loyal person tp his country get nervous.

"a commentor insulted Mr. Hosney Mubarak and said "kato nila" without any reason...while there r minority who wants to destroy his image hatefuly"

Whatever u say Safwat! I stand by all my remarks about Mubarak ya 7elwa. If u honestly believe that most people in Egypt love Hosni Mubarak then u must be isolated in a pyramid or something. Rabinah yeshfy we yehdy. So far u have not even mentioned one single thing not even half of what Mubarak has done...FOR his '''OWN''' people...We as Egyptians DO NOT CARE about his external relations coz that's never a benefit to us. And by the way most Arabs do not want him interfering in their affairs for the simple fact that he does not do anything.
He is a Victorian King leading a luxurious life whilst being a dictator. See 4 yourself how many people will commend him. Anyway I’m not a commentator I’m the wizard of Oz.
Who was the one that turned Mubarak into an issue? I merely said a sarcastic remark about those who hold power and fame 80+ and u turned it into the Spanish inquisition. All this 3ashan u don’t want people 2 have their own opinions, sub7an Allah it's a free world. You didn't make Egypt with your bare hands, all u do is walk on it min 3azamit Allah, or is it Mubarak who gives u the permission where to walk and how 2 talk and what 2 say?

Da shadid 7awagbo le fou2!!!!! Not a single line of wisdom on his face, no frowns, no white hairs...Come On even Queens don't do that 2 themselves. It's obscene & hard 2 respect a man who is giving us a false image! We all criticize Women for doing it…what about when a man does it and one who is meant 2 have authority?
And by the way miss nouza u criticized Saba7 in her post for being too old and still wanting fame & 2 look like something else …one rule applies 2 saba7 and another to Mubarak sa7?

Do Arab leaders visit the same plastic surgeon or each country has one?. I was wondering because our president Lahoud and the self proclaimed saint Aoun could have recommended their own surgeons to Mr Mubarak.

hey, i know this has nothing to do with president Mubarak, but i heard that the Egyptian football team are playing South Africa in London next month, and i was wondering if anyone knew how to get tickets? I'd love to go and support!!

fi eh ya nouza inty mish dayra bili biyi7sal fil balad wala eh ya mama. Ba2a bizimitik dah yinfa3 yib2a ra2ees dah, di nos el balad mayita min el go3, fo2y ya habibty, yalla salaam Sweety if you don't like what I say, then u need a reality check!!!

All arab leaders suck, and i am saying it right now...and we need democracy as well as women leaders because these men leaders suck and are destroying the arab world only caring about money.

yes these r the kind of ppl who dont like mubarak in egypt nzam "ya 7abibty wy fo2y wy namy wy kalam lamo 2akhza bta3 shaware3 daya2a",shame on u ppl u dont deserve to be aslan egyptians u could play a role as a spy or something,i know some egyptian who say that mubarak is not the best or worest he has his advantages and disadvantages but we cant say that he is completley wrong,if he is completley wrong kan zamana like iraquians,3eib 3aleko walahy,matshametoosh had fyna,Mubarak is not responsible for pauverty,he has many accomplishements and prejects in most of our village..msh kol wahed 3ando problem refer it to the president,WAKE UP ,and anyway he is our president if u like it or not ITS A FACT,he is not responsible to visit each house and give u the food in ur mouses,dont refer ur failure and loosenesss to ur president or governement,dont u remember the last election,all the streets and all the ppl were supporting Mubarak"wy kabasooko sa7"..3eib 3aleko walahy 3eib,ely malosh kheir fy some1 who give his life and soul and thinking and everything to u,then u dont have kheir to any1 one

i critisize saba7 4 her good and i started my comment that i do love her,ya sam i am objective,when i feel something i write it without any personal feelings toward any1,msh zay sa3atek u even dont have anything to decrease the image of mubarak so u started post ay kalam wy plastic surjery wy ay kalam fy ay kalam:))),howa fy eh belzabt?did he kill some1 u love or something:))u made me laugh really and by the way dont reply to my comment again coz i ll not enter this article concerning our VERY VERY VERY BEST PRESIDENT of Egypt,and if u did please write when the dog bey haw haw ,no one answer it,at least Mubarak well never gave a dam care of ur insulting and ur hatefull comments "yala kol fy ba3dak"..by the way,there is a program on the Egyptian local television channel and Mr, President MOHAMED HOSNEY MUBARAK is the guest honor and well be interviwed,so dont open the TV for 3 or4 days coz u can get sara3 wala haga if u saw the president "mn el gheiz "for sure.bye:)

what are you.. a frikin idiot?where are you living..lala land? honestly are you one of those posh,upper class egyptians?even then,those people might have enough brains to figure out a good person from a bad person.listen up sweety,this guy is just like king abdullah the second..a puppet.a bush cronie.you name it.anything which eases America's operation in the middle east,theyre down for it.they're like Bush henchmen.Bush's bi*tch.you name it.he speaks about democracy when he isnt representing half the people of his country.i thought democracy was when a government represents its nation.his government is exactly the OPPOSITE.his last election was like a game.it wasnt even an election.remember what happened between Bush and Al gore?yeah cheating with ballot boxes...thats exatly what he did.open your eyes as some people on this board said and take a look at the real world.that old-ass moron,hes like an obese donkey who wont get off his butt and spare a few dimes for those egyptians in need.because of him and other arab leaders and people like you(brainwashed by the oil-corporated media)arabs are in the state they are now.look..we are a complete joke.the west looks at us and smiles while it rains bombs down our throats.dont talk about iraq,lebanon or palestine because before you know it,egypt is next.oh and instead of saying these people are "masakeen" why dont you give money to charities and help them instead of sitting around and talking like you know how it feels being them.dont blame the lebanese and palestinians because they cant help the situation they are in and we are lucky enough to have decent organizations to defend us like hizbollah.these are the true muslims,not like the so called al qaida.honey your just voting for your ticket to death,misery,poverty and doom.

well said yasmeen.nouna is just another brainwashed freak who keeps getting fed what she is told by her government.

hello im an egyptian living in cairo but my parents are from alexandria. i am absolutely appalled by sone people on this board(nouna).do you live in egypt?have you been to places where they have massive amounts of populations?have you seen the state they are in?...you talk like you havent even ever been to egypt.dont say you are egyptian because you're not.enti magnouna wella eih?3wza 7d yedrabik bel alam ya roh omik?sa7sa7i ya mama!!bosi feli beyi7sal gowa masr delwaty!half egyptians in this country are living in poverty and un-educated because of hosni Mubarak. yes,yasmeen is right.he is a Bush cronie.we as arabs are being looked upon and laughed at. sam and yasmeen are defenitely correct.we need more people like them here.nouna go away.bigad..go back to your fancy apartment in newyork and keep being a republican.

3fwan di nouza mish nouna.my bad guys.bas ive read nouna in 2 posts so i didnt realize it was nouza.yalla da mish mohem.

Screw this guy bro >.<

lina=marwa=yasmeen=one person akid sam"same way of criticising,using same words,and also the disrepctful way of talking,and easy to insults the president,and all them girls from egypts hates mubarak,he he he he"what an idiote u r!!!??wy helwa haraket nouna dy da ba2a to convince readers that ur not the same person!!..walahy i do respect all the ppl from other countries,i thought they ll read ur shameful commrents about the president and comment on them badly.what i found that no 1 aslan care about ur stupied comments that reflect how hateful u r a person ,akid enty spycho wala haga,and pls dont start 2 create mens or unegyptian commentors from ur imagine in order to support ur bad thinking about OUR PRESIDENT...shycho khhals:)

and 3ala fekra another main thing that really all of the imaginary commentors is related ,that u r from a very very by2a watya from egypt,and if i need to be adereb bel alam ashan afo2,so eldarb belgezam 3al khel2et sa3atek well never wake u up,ya ro7..."sorry for any low class lang,but pls read what this sphyco is writting first the one who called herself more than name,marwa=yasmeen=lina"el manakholya dy

ya nouza, dude im just as patriotic as u are, bas Mubarak doesnt represent egypt and its greatness, the president of a country doesnt necessarily represent that country. We ba3dain what bi2a r u talkin about??? nobody was usin low class lang but u, what exactly do u know about the cheats and lies of the mubarak administration? I think that is the problem, and no im not attacking you so take a chill pill jeez

\ dodo,i think u can read properly or i am wrong??!!so plz first go and check all the comments written by the sphyco person wala "ro7 omek dy belnesbalk alfaz tabe3eya!!"..and cheating eh bas that ur talking about,did u c him cheating or doing anything wala bas benraded ay kalam..WAKE UP,this is what israel wants from the Egyptians,if we hate our president and refer each single and personal problem to him we ll collapsed and destroyed and it ll be very easy for israel to rape our land,this is what they r looking for,u just dont want mubarak but u dont have any person to trust to take his place,balash habal wenaby ba3a,and if i use low class lang in ur opinion,so i think that urs is less than the low i guess...

hehe its very clear whos nuts in this room

all fingers point to nouza.

il bit di magnouna.
cant you realize ino no one likes this guy except you.btw,not all people have to love and crave for their king or president just because hes their king or president.have you even heard of a revolution?

and whats wrong with people being low class?its not their fault their poor.its your governments fault.aka its your presidents fault.at least they have enough brains to recognize a cheat from a good person not like you ya enti ya high class.pff.

Oh my god girl, have some self-respect. Why do u talk in that ridiculous manner? Afa we zoor we pasha? eh dah 2a3ozoo billah!
The whole election was set up by Bush and Israel in a way to stop the criticism they would get for the so-called creation of the Iraqi 'democracy' (A farce- 2 'me'-more people are dying under the USA's existence then Saddams and u already know this- 2 wrongs do not make a right and this applies in the case of Mubarak too) and inevitably 2 keep Mubarak. Egypt, Palestine, Algeria had elections. Some of the khaleegy countries had elections...what changed...NOTHING wake up and smell the coffee: it's all a big act.
Natalie is not 'others' don't disrespect people that way...it's a forum and one free for all to join in & debate. And 'me' one bad guy is no better then one that is painted as evil. We don't have degrees of being bad. If u r bad then u r bad. Anyway Nouza, Mubarak nahyato arabit and God rest his soul when it does but I for one will not be sad...Open your mind ya safwat il sherif. He's not OUR president; don't talk on behalf of everyone. Talk on behalf of yourself...u r not understanding the idea of democracy at all r u? No one hates Mubarak for the simple reason that Mubarak does not do or say anything- he is not an influence, not a peace maker...nothing. Mubarak is getting presents from USA and money...perhaps not as much as Israel but he still accepts them with open arms- it's a fact that he is getting 2 or 3 billion from usa every year as well as war artillery- would they give him money if they hate him? Would he accept it if he hated them? Where’s your sense and logic? You are just caring 4 mazahir and afraid of mazahir...mish il 7a2, not justice, do u work for the tourist industry? Al Jazeera doesn't hate Egypt- they have no reason 2...they adopted Al Qaradawy didn't they. I f u don't like it...don't watch it. I certainly have no room to hate Mubarak or any of his mafia...I simply don't consider him. You are joking about the retirement bit aren't u? That’s the funniest thing ever; a president living with power and in luxury retiring @ 80, leh ba3d il shar did he suddenly feel a burst of energy or has he decided that it’s time 4 a change of career? You are talking like a cowboy with all this enemy and hatred nonsense...grow up please!

Posted by: sam at October 16, 2006 12:17 AM from sabah before and after

Nouza u r not even being original. I was the one who told u not 2 talk in the manner that u do and now u r turning 'my words' around on everyone else? Don't u have anything of your own to say? I am seriously thinking now that u must be related to someone in the mafia we 3aysha fe 3ezz the elite.

Anyway your arguments & methods are weak and if u r so proud 2 be an Egyptian u would be asking people 'why' they are anti-Mubarak, and like I said b4 u would list what he has done in his 26 years...so far all u r saying is he has 'many' accomplishments which is a very poor argument (what many?). He is only the fourth president of Egypt so even for u to compare him is meaningless and of no use 2 us. All it seems like 2 us is that he is trying 2 maintain all of Sadat's achievements (that of which have aged & in need of change & renewing desperately)and keep his external relations alive. Anyway everyone prefers Nasser- even non-Egyptians. For u to criticize people of female origin for being against Mubarak’s govt is pathetic and disgusting!!!

I can post something tab3an 3ala Mubarak...Where is the money coming from America going? What are the exact motives for having an election only NOW? surely If u believe something is right u will do it without waiting 2 be asked (just before further middle-eastern wars!)& after 26 years of power! What has occurred from the investigation bita3 il red sea drowned ship? Why is Suzanne Mubarak involved in his Politics acting as mother Theresa when clearly around the world Politicians do not involve their 'unelected' wives/spouses? Where are the ministers resolving Egypt’s Transport crises? / Pollution crises? / Architectural crises? / Medical care crises?
What is the point of going on a 10 Copt and 10 female solution to show diversity? Why not pick people based on their credibility and not their sex or religion? When we he step down? Who is worthy of taking his place after he steps down/ dies? Why is so much of Egypt’s politics controlling il gawami3, il media including TV channels and newspapers...if u have nothing 2 hide then u would allow all those institutions to be privatized...there is a huge list of unanswered questions so if u wanna defend him then u better start answering and stop insulting anyone who make a challenge on u or him. Try 2 be a little bit more dignified. But u should face it, Egypt’s government are fence-sitters…they don’t wanna pick sides or say who is right coz they don’t wanna be cut off from anyone or anything…that’s not justice for us or anyone else. I mean a company like ‘Marks and Spencer’s’ or ‘Sainsbury’s’ which are both ma3rofeen to be Jewish and benefactors for Israel- why are they allowed to exist in Egypt especially after the atrocities of Lebanon? We ma3roof Kaman that Marks and Spencer’s for instance has tabaro3at going to Israel and so how is this right? I really don’t care what other Arab govts are doing…your job is to stand up for only the one in question and so u don’t have to say eshme3na 2e7na and if they r doing it why can’t we…u can only represent yourself as a loyal Mubarak fan who believes he is a man doing everything right. Yallah daf3y…

excuse me everybody, i'm a lebanese citizen and i'm very proud to be lebanese. I want to thank all Egyptians because they went and donated money to us (lebanese people). They opened their houses for the lebanese refugees(Syria as well). My grandmother went and lived with a very kind Egyptian family. What i want to say is could you plz stop insulting each other. I noticed that in the last few posts, we were insulting the egyptians a lot and after the war, i found out that they are totally the opposite. They are really, kind and sweet people. I hope that you read my comment carefully.

ya nouza, 2awalan mish ana eli 2olt 3ala 2alfazik low you r the one who said sorry for the low class lang...you were also the one who said "and 3ala fekra another main thing that really all of the imaginary commentors is related ,that u r from a very very by2a watya from egypt,and if i need to be adereb bel alam ashan afo2,so eldarb belgezam 3al khel2et sa3atek well never wake u up,ya ro7" we ba3dain bil zima mubarak isnt cheating the WHOLE Counntry out of its money. wi ba3dain ba2a i dont think waleg put this up 3ashan 7adritik ti haza2y kol eli yi2ool ray2o i7tirimy nafsik wi kaman lazim tit3alimy 2izay ti2ooly ra2yik min gheir matigra7y 7ad, di 7aga el 7aga el tanya 2iw3i tiftikiry ini lama tista5dimy el 2alfaz eli bit2olihi di tib2 sa7 la2 ya mama da yib2a ismo da3f. u clearly dont live in egypt and you clearly are very naive in your thoughts, and dont even try to say no because this is my major and this is basically what im good at so stop denying it before i smack you with a couple of facts 3ashan tifo2y. and just ike sam said yalla daf3y 3an nafsik ya shatra wala 2olik inty 5asrana 5asrana so there is basically no use. oh yea if you want to see a true president go look at Anwar El Sadat eli 2adib israel mish zay mubarak eli 3ammal yil7as gazmit Sharon wi Ehud Olmert, wi George Bush. yalla yalla ya mama roo7y el3aby bi3eed. i can tear you up with the facts i have, when is your birthday so i can get you a reaaaaaallllly good book 3ashan titsaqafy shiwaya. wi tany marra matib2eesh titkalimy fi 7aga manteesh fahma feha! bala 2araf!

here u r the original sphyco appeared again "sam",the yahoody 1,first of all akid i didnt read all ur comment coz wade7 enek bgad fadya and u dont have some1 to speack with,and betala3y genanek 3al net,da wade7 mn mawdo3 el ta3byr that u r writting in each comment,but the main thing that i do understand from ur comment in general that u still unrespected person with low class lang and who hate her country's president and insult him in front of every1 with no respect to any1,at least respect the name of ur country wala enty msh mo7tarama khals kda,its easy for u to insult any1..anyway i dont know u and i ll be shame if i knew some1 like u,but maybe this subject made us like enemies while we r from the same country,but dont forget that u was the first to insult our president when u said "kato nila" in the sabah article,wich made me defending my president i cant just c something like that and 3ady afra7 wy asa2aflk..even if u r against him,this is not the way to express ur feeling,and as an egyptian citizen i have the right 500% to defend my country image as well as it's president..
to dodo,ana msh 3arfa aslan enty ma7shora in my comment bechakl yeda7ak awy,first eh mama dy,ana maysharafnish eny yekonly sela byky aslan ashan shaklk manakholya and u dont have ethics mn aslo msh 3arfa gaya mnein enty,second it seems that u dont know ay haga fy ay haga,when i said that i used low class lang i said the reason why coz some1 told me "ya ro7 omek"!!,but while u r a biased person and monafka so u didnt gave any care for my reason and u just critisize my way of speaking.wy enty za3lana awy coz iam expressing my opinion betari2a enty shayfaha ghalat,lakn ya nas7a ya mo7tarama lama t2oly "yel7as elgazma bta3et sharon>>?" bgad only one thing could be said wich is eh el araf da!!u r expressing ur point of view bechakl mo2ref,at least i am defending the president,but u dont have something unless ur looooooooow way of speaking,and eh ya mama ya mama enty beterda7y..3aretona wy kasaftona allah yeksefko..
and for the lebanese:
i really love ur country and all Egyptians love it and we do our best coz u r our brothers..and we do what u well do if we "la kadar allah" have a war in Egypt..and please dont take the comments that r written from those who claiming that they r Egyptians,we r not like that at all,but those are minority who r full of hate from the governement and i think they have spychological reasons for that,and they r destroying our image as Egyptians,and sorry if u read unethical comments or words.

I really cant say all Mubarak's accomplishements becoz they r uncounted,but i ll try to sum up some of them during the past 20 yrs:
for exaples,Privatization is well underway,Egypt's public debt has fallen from $40billion to 30.9 billion tell 1996.Forein currency resrves have climbed to $18 billion from $4.9 billion in 1982.
-The population growth has been brought under controll according to official tatistics "and its properly shown by the huge campaigns to dcrease population and support the birth controll",while the rate increase is approashing 2% while 15 yrs ago was 2.8%
-Egypt infrastructure has approached the level of the so-called first world particulary in communications,20 yrs ago the anecdote goes that the best way to make a cross town phone call was to go through syprus
-Some informal areas"slums" that were once totally neglected are now enjoy lighting,sewars,and health services,also there are more highways,and they r better lit and better metaled than ever before.
-Also Mubarak's program since he became our president 1981 has been one of economic reforms,more political freedom,like letting the Muslim Brotherhood into the parliment,and he gave more freedom to the press
-Internationaly he has focused on neutrality between the great powers and put his efforts into improving relations with other Arab states.
-Today Egypt hosts the Arab league and has clear pretensions to lead it,while it had been expelled from the Arab league before Mubarak
While Mubarak restored relations with therest of the Arab world and no doubt this is due largely to his personal style of one-on-one diplomacy and friendly
--in his last election he got 88.6% of the votes

My main point is that every1 is free to express his point of view,no 1 can stop any person ,but when it come to insulting this is not accepted,and i am sorry if i got nervous and said things that i shouldnt said but this is due to my loyality for the one i do respect and love our President Mohamed Hosmy Mubarak president of my lovely country Egypt..and please remember that no 1 is perfect except God..and Mubarak is 4 sure not perfect coz no 1 can be,but at least he represent our country Egypt through out the past 26 years,so at least select ur words even if u r against him,yeah u hate him but millions of egyptians love him,so u can at least respect those millions feelings.

Waleg I think u should have some authority here in reference to nouza and her language. You are the ring leader of this forum and this subject is obviously too controversial her and she is resorting to the use of insults as her defence mechanism to anybody and everybody in disagreement. Nouza for the last time this is an open forum/ an open debate and a democratic one at that...if the devil himself wants 2 join in then it's none of your business...u don't own this site and u don't own the subject matter and more importantly u don't own Egypt. If Allah wills an Earthquake in Egypt then it will happen and if Allah wills flooding then it will happen so have some flexibility in your understanding. Enty ghareeba awy…first u state that I am back recognising that I haven’t been here…whilst u seemingly have been answering everybody…then mish 3agbik iny rege3t we barod bardo ya3ny find yourself a solution we law mish 3agbik ce la vie. We all disagree in things and agree in other things- get used 2 it!

You are really bi3eeda khalis 3an the reality, if u wanna know if Egypt is approaching first world or not go and check the united nations statistics about Egypt and then come back and we'll talk- Egypt is barely above the African nations in reference to 'advancing' and for your information countries including Tunisia and Morocco are above us...maybe not by much but for all your talk u make it seem as though we r sitting on top of the Arab league comfortably with a cigar in our mouth...Egypt needs the Arabs just as much as any nation needs another. America has pretty much confirmed the failing of the Egyptian elections and u should not restrict yourself to Aljazeera & ESC...maybe broaden your knowledge by visiting the many different international websites. Even Europe has recognised the shambles of the Egyptian elections as well as the failing of Iraq. The Arab league is yet again a shambles and it is the joining of leaders who are holding on to positions with their teeth. Anyway Enty wala hamik Ramadan wala inik to be a good muslim wala hamik democracy wala ay 7aga...u r in a world of your own dear and u r very jealous that the 'original psycho' has more support then the original forum dictator- u sincerely. My family live in slums in Alexandria so I know more about that then u do. You're not in a position really to enforce your luxurious privileges on the rest of us. Go and do do3a2 ba2ah 4 Rabin ye2bal seismic because u have been very rude to several people here we Allah yesam7ik. Anyway why do u insult using the world 'yahooed'? I swear that there are Jews better then Arabs. There are many Jews against the Israeli govt and there is even a sect in Judaism that is against the creation of Israel. As well as that I have met Jews who have converted to Islam as well as others. Go and broaden your knowledge dear, we are all ignorant in this world but u r being ignorant and stubborn and unwilling to debate in a civilized manner.

To Lebanese u r welcome in Egypt anytime it’s your home as much as it is mine. Trust me we are not battling with one another…it’s politics and we are trying to air our views…most of it is anti-government and the only person who is taking it personally and attacking anyone who is not taking her stance is nouza.

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