You can see the extent of damage caused by heavy bombings by comparing these two satellite images of Beirut before & after the war; notice the fully destroyed civilian’s houses, roads, government buildings and some Hezbollah buildings.
You can see the extent of damage caused by heavy bombings by comparing these two satellite images of Beirut before & after the war; notice the fully destroyed civilian’s houses, roads, government buildings and some Hezbollah buildings.
hezboallah long life
israel to hell
hey is that the same one who use to swear at hizballah so what changed you?haha
yeah he's the one
its trueeee lool, el shay6an yemken 6ar mn raso
I sencerely hope that Beyrouth will be restored in all her beauty so that the peolpe can leave in peace and never have to face war again!
Insha Allah!
Faysal
lol wow wat happend 2 u fsk? may god help lebanon and give them the strength 2 rebuild it. unlike in iraq were theyv been going through war for the past 3/4 years, the country has been left in ruins and the future doesnt seem very bright either. god be with iraq, lebanon and palestine.
joelle keep repeating that line it might convince someone one day! 3ala kefek libnen mish arabiya? arabiya ou nos! wat the hell are u speaking then? spanish? i dont think so, u speak arabic hence ur arab! and stop being so racist, lebanon is for christians, muslims (shia and sunni) and anyone else lebanese, get over urself. if lebanon goes into another civil war, god forbidd, its because of racist people like u.
One day I was reading a text about " When can you say that someone is arab or not" and in the text there was a hadith of Profhet Mohammed (S.W.A) that said " If the tong speaks arabic then the person is an arab " or something like that however I can not find the statement but I'm 100% sure that it was on wikipedia or something like that. So if some people in Lebanon say they are not Arabs, they are wrong, they better should say I'm not 100% Arab by blood (because Lebanese decent from the Ancient Phoenicians). But you have better to be proud thay you Are Arab because nowadays who can speak a language and read it that is kept from at least 1400 years!
Be proud!
Faysal. salaam
Faysal, no the lebanese do not descend from the phoencians, the phonicieans was an old egyptian people, they were black so how can the lebanese decent from them?
secondly the phonecians ruled Syria (and at that time lebanon was part of it) but then they left, just like the crusadors.
And joelle, IF WE APPLY YOUR RULE OF ETHNIC IDENTITY, THEN NO ONE IN THE SO-CALLED ARAB WORLD IS AN ETHNIC ARAB. All these countries, especially Iraq and Egypt, have pre-Arab identities. Egyptians (be they Muslim or Christian) or of Eastern Hamitic stock and Coptic in origin, Iraq is a product of the former Babylonians. Tunisian = the berbers. IN FACT, it is BLAD AL SHAM, and LEBANON and SYRIA in particular, that have a STRONG ETHNIC ARAB TRIBE PRESENCE. Arab Tribal Christianity in the Sham predates Islam. Have you ever heard of the BANU GHASSAN OR BANU TAGHLIB OR BANU LAKHMID TRIBES, ALL CHRISTIAN AND ALL ORIGINALLY FROM HORAN YEMEN that BECAME THE FIRST TRIBES IN Blad el sham which is now syria, Palestine, LEBANON and jordan. The Ghassan tribe in particular has some of the largest Lebanese families (Jebara, Maalouf, el-Khazen, Antaki).
So lets leave this garbage and talk about something else cuz u people who say u arent arabs are brainwashed, u dont even know ur own roots. U say ur phonician, in that case ur african blacks. But lebanese dont look like african blacks, they look like arabs, i have been there so stop the lies which u seem to believe.
You are arabs.
And faysal, i really dont think a lebanese christian who hates the muslims cares about what the prophet (SAW) said.
to joelle, lolali, AND evrey1 whos saying lebnan is only 4 el masse7...well ur wrong.
cuz im muslim sunni and im from lebanon like many people n i know my whole family history.my great great....grandfather also lived in lebanon.
OH BY THE WAY IF U WANNA REALLY GO 2 THE ROOTS NO1 AND I MEAN NO1 IS REALLY LEBANESE CUZ LEBANON OR BEIRUT CAME FROM BELAD EL SHAM......IF U NEVER HEARD OF THAT. OK HONEY!!
lebanon is for ALL RELIGIONS..AND IT IS ALWAYS KNOWN FOR THAT, PLUS WHAT ABOUT HARIRI ALL YERHAMO, he built beirut 2 and protected it..DUNT 4GET HIM.
ALSO THERE IS A BIGGGBIGGG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN sunni n shi3a i mean both r considered muslims.....but sunni r not strict and dont do many things like them..plus hizbollah iF u wanna hate him. UR FREEE!!!!!!!
BUT DO NOT GOO CUSSING MUSLIMS OR HATING THEM N SAYING UR FROM IRAN OR WUTEVER, CUZ LETS SAY HIZBOLLAH IS EVIL BUT MANY MUSLIMS R INNOCENT FROM HIM..just like in usa bush is evil but not all americans r evil.......RITE!!!???
ALSO FOR CHRISTIANS THERE IS CATHOLIC MAROUNI....SAME WITH MUSLIMS SUNNI SHI3A N IF UR MASEE7EYE U SHOULD KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENCE between catholic n rouman maroun so on so same with muslims....
IN THE END PEOPLE R ALL THE SAME REMEMBER ALL LEBANESE WHETER MUSLIM OR MASEE7 CAME FROM WHERE?? belad el sham..... OKKKK
soo stop all ur talk n say this is minE not yours as if lebnan is a toy n little kids r fighting over......
AND LEBANESE ARE MIDDLE EASTERN AND ARE ARABSSSSS.......
WHY WOULDNT U BE PROUD BUT SIMPLY SAYING UR NOT. ASK ANY1 IN THE WORLD THEY KNOW LEBANESE=ARABS.
ONE MORE THING MOST OF THE PROBLEMS IS BECAUSE OF RACISM PLEASE STOP THIS..PLZ..I HAVE MANY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS N IM MUSLIM N I LUV EVERY1 EQUALLY.........RACISM IS 100%WRONG, CUZ WE ALL R HUMAN BEINGS, SOMETIMES GOVERNMENT IS EVIL BUT ITS PEOPLE R INNOCENT.
AND DUNT SAY STUFF AND THINGS AND CURSE PEOPLE N RELIGIONS WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY REALLY..ITS LIKE DO U WANNA MAKE FUN OF URSELF???U REALLY SOUND LIKE U KNOW NUTHING CUZ U SAID THAT......SERIOUSLY U SHOULD STOP THIS..THIS NONSENSE. I HAVE MANNYMANNYYY AND I MEAN MANY PROOFSSS HOW LEBANESE IS FOR EVERY1 N THEY R ARABS.. AND IF U WANT PEOPLE 2 RESPECT U N IR RELIGION N FAMILY RESPECT OTHERS.... CUZ U WONT GET RESPECT..N RACINSM COMES...
SORRY IT LONGGGG BUT I GOT COMPLETELY MAD OVER PEOPLE HERE SAYING LEBNAN IS NOT AN ARAB COUNTRY N BEING RACIST.
LONG LIVE LEBNAN WITH LOVE AND NO HATING PEOPLE WITH MUSLIMS N MASEE7....N GODBLESS LEBNAN
Guys...why are u even responding to someone who is too ashamed to say they are arabs plus they post three different comments under three different names...what a shame...Joella, Dani and LOLALI...i want tell u something mane nakar aslahole la asla laho...i dont think u are lebanese or arabic or anything u just dont have any roots and u are ignorante....i am lebanese and i do think lebanese ppl are confused of what they wanna be ...do u guys ever see them on tv speak like 3 different languages...tehy are even too ashamed to use their own mother tongue language....they think they sound cooler if they speak english which anyways is a basic language....inspite the fact that arabic is a rich language with lot of meanings and feelings to it
To all lebanese...if u truly love lebanon u should love everyone in it despite their difference and their religions and i think these difference is what makes lebanon beautiful...so stopfighting as in i am shitte or sunni or christain and so on just unite and fight back alll the enemies that are attacking our country so we can live with freedom and peace...i am sure u guys wont like lebanon to be like Palastine or Iraq...and i think if not for hezzbuallah , lebanon would have been like that...look at the history look at what israel is still doing its still attacking everyday and kidnapping civilians...but rather than standing united we fight each other and then israel will come back...just look at palastine and iraq and think for once...
oh one more thing........around 75% of lebanese people eversince lebanon existed r MUSLIMS..AND AROUND 25% CHRISTIAN.....DUNT WANNA BELIVE ME WELL I STUDIED IT IN MY GEOGRAPHY CLASS N READ IT ON INTERNET.
SOO YEAA LEBANON IS ONLY 4 CHRISTIANS....!?
What on earth is wrong with being an Arab for goodness sake? The fact of the matter is no one knows their true and indeed mixed origins dating back to the Stone Age and what not.
I think there is an obvious divide that people want to conceal or deny and that is that Lebanese Muslims; shi3a and Sunni alike are more willing to be called Arabs. Christians on the other hand aren't perhaps because their religion has dissolved and the Christians of Europe and the Americas don't care about this common entity having abandoned it to a large extent. Therefore the one thing Lebanese Christians can claim with all their common folk is to be exclusively bound by their nationality aka Lebanese.
Nonetheless if you say you are Phoenicians or whatever it means that you are admitting that you are not purely leb which is true regardless. In death we lose this nationalistic attitude as well as nationalism and become ashes alike so be grateful for being alive rather then praising something invisible and unethical.
Why do some of you write in capitals? Is it like a technique of trying to show that you are shouting? Doesn’t work...looks silly.
I have a genuine question: Why do Lebanese people like to blame everyone except themselves? I find it a most peculiar thing. Blame never lies in one lap 4 sure but Lebanese seem to distribute it to anyone and anything but themselves. I mean for sure the fact that you have a million opinions is your downfall and not admitting to the broken opinions whilst claiming to be united. Anyway God help you as all those in hard times alike. War is harder for the living then it is on the dead at the end of the day so insha'allah u'll rebuild what’s lost and recapture some harmony.
You guys have to get it into your system that there’s no such thing as a promised land or a land for a religion. The idea generally is that land belongs to humanity; humanity changes over time thus...Stone/Sun worshippers converted to Judaism...Jews converted to Christianity...Christians converted to Islam. No one and no religion comes out of thin air; it requires a process of change by humanity and evolving through time and history. That’s why people are failing to understand how Christians & Muslims came to be in Palestine (because people convert), not because they invade or fall out of the sky suddenly.
Dani lebneneh
Argentineans were European immigrants largely who later fused with other cultures. Argentina was colonized by the Spanish...this is why their first language is Spanish, the same way that many countries were colonized by the English, the French or the Italians. Most countries colonized by France took up the language as their mother tongue. Many colonized by the English also took up the language as their mother tongue. Usually you’ll find that a colony and its colonizer are separated by seas and oceans. Lebanese people may be multilingual but your mother tongue is Arabic, your neighbours mother tongue is Arabic, your share the same complexion and the same traditions and indeed without being colonized by Arabs.
Anyhow your arguments and debates are unfounded and will always be so as long as you maintain nationalistic attitudes verging on plain rudeness. Logic doesn’t come out of bitterness.
For all the Lebanese..
When rafiq Al-Hariri died..allah yerhamou..
thousands of lebanese people were gathered in center beirut..Masihin w Muslimin..and do you all remember what Jubran iltwani said..allah yi2ades rouhou..
"Naksum billeiih il 3azeem ..Muslimin w Masihin..3an nabka muhadin ila abad il abadin..difa2an 3an libnen il 3azeem."
And thousands and possibly those commenting here..were there and repeated it after him..
So.. Don;t forget that...
Lebanon is for all of us..we shouldn't be here arguing about who it is for..this is so shameful..and ridiculous..Instead we should stick together..and be ONE..
Long Live Lebanon..
Waleg did u miss me? We're having some building work done in our home...nightmare situation and my broadband company 3ayzeen l dab7, long story shan't go into it now.
How many walegs are there if u don't mind me asking? I sense there are a few because the way 'Waleg' talks is different each time and i get the impression you have a range of ages. Sometimes you sound old and wise, other times you sound young and sha2y. Maybe it's a mood swing but 'female intuition' and all that is saying fe kazza nafar, sa7 wala la2? :-)
Sorry jojo but at school they thaught me that Lebanese descend from phoenicians, and that they later have been influenced by the Arabic language.
Go check t if you do not believe me.
Phoenicia was an ancient civilization in the north of ancient Canaan, with its heartland along the coastal plains of what is now Lebanon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia.
Faysal, salaam
Egyptian government officially announced on November 1977 the Great Anwar al-Sadat visited Israel.
The Lebanese government officially announced on August 2006 the brave Brig.General Adnan Daoud is in prison for drinking tea with IDF (in a video released by a schmuck)
The comments of ignorant people claiming that Lebanon is not an Arab country or claming that Lebanese people aren't Arab… all such comments will be FULLY DELETED.
Go and read history! Lebanese people are one of the main reasons why the Arabic language still exists until this day... You should be proud of this! :( !!!
sam,
Yes, we are more than one person working on WALEG, females and males ... read our 'about us' page for more information...
sam,
You are back. I actually noticed you were missing, someone not so wise was using your nickname but sounded completely different and posted very short comments, lol. Was I missed, I was away for a few days too. I doubt it though.
There cannot be too many WALEGS, one of a kind I believe:).
It is my birthday today. Happy birthday to me.
Go WALEG.
waleg,
i am guessing from ur comment u made a page called about us, but i can't seem 2 find it on ur page!
so can u please help me and tell where it is cuz i looked alot.....
sorry
and thx
Waleg are u serious? are u going delete lebanese who say there arent arabic??? Who are u to come tell people what we are? I am lebanese but im not an arab and i would never want to be one and those who say we are are just saying it for the look of being united but we arent ok.
And as for ramroumi, people were only repeating it to get syria out, who would have listened to us if we didnt get back up from the sunni muslims who are ruled by the saudi arabians?
Please get real, lebanon has never been united between muslims and christians, never, we all live inside different neighbourhoods and different villages and so on.
Its time for the arabs to wake up, and i dont mean to be rude but have u ever met chistian lebanese people? Cuz most of us say and always have said we arent arabs cuz we arent, those who do say they are arabs are some of the singers, politicians and businessmen and stuff like that, they are saying it cuz otherwise the arabs would boycott them.
We arent arabs, lebanon was a christian country long before the muslims came, and the christians in lebanon are 40 percent, not 25 percent and we are more then the muslims but many of us live in america and latin america.
Why do u call us arabs when we dont want to be called arabs???
Please waleg dont remove this post cuz why dont u want us to have a free dialouge about this? why must we say we are arabs when we are not, otherwise u will not accept us, thats why there is so much hate among the christian lebanese and the muslims, its because the arabs forbid us from sayin our oppinion and talk about our roots.
And lecia, the sunni lebanese dont even like u so why do u keep talking about unity and stuff?
We lebanese arent one people, we are different people who live inside the same country,
and to some1 who said even ur grandfather lived in lebanon lol, do u think thats a long time or what?? There are immigrants in lebanon ´like the palestinians for example who have been in lebanon longer then that, are u going to say that they are lebanese too? It doesnt matter how long u have been inside a country cuz its the roots that counts. All of u were bashing shakira cuz she says she is colombian, well if look at it the way u you look at it then she is colombian for living in colombia a long time lol, its irony. Ask ur dad or mum where u originaly coem from and then go back to that country and then we can all be happy and live in peace...
And stop being so suprised when u hear a lebanese saying we arent arabs cuz WE ARE MANY WHO SAY SO.
And faysal, its true that the christian lebanese (marounis) are from the phonician, but not the muslims, they came from the iranians and arabs way after us...
And one more thing, rafik hariri didnt build up lebanon, the investors build it up so stop saying rafik hariri this and rafik hariri that.
He didnt do much, all he did was to gather investers and make some filthy money.
But even though im not an arab i still do admit that it was the arabs who rebuild lebanon, like the gulf states who invested in it... (not the arabic lebanese)
Allthough since it was the arabs fault it got ruined in the first place i do believe that it was the right thing to do fro mthe arabs even though not all lebanese are arabs.
u worship rafik hariri as if he is Jesus or something.
Bachir gemeyel was a real good leader, not hariri and those kind of thiefs.
Nancy chidiac,
We are the owner of this website and we reserve the right to keep or delete comments that we believe they aren't suitable for any reason.
Check your family history 'Chidiac' during the late Othmani influence - the last 200 years!
As for the Arab and non Arab issue, you are free to expres your opinion as long as you are talking about yourself, don't speak on behalf of all the Lebanese christians ...
Thank you for your understanding.
One more thing Nancy,
Lebanon that you are refering to which at some time of the history had christians more than Muslims is not the current Lebanon...
The reason why a country like the USA is strong is the diversification of its people's origin and relgion ...
Such comments will only help to destroy Lebanon so please think before your post anything even if you believe you are right, its a very critical & senstive time we are living these days and the last thing we need is another defeat like the one we had on the begining of the 19th century. Be responsible before typing words, think twice or more ... because one word can change lots of things especially in the Middle East region.
some1,
The page is available on WALEG since a long time... you can find the link to this page at the bottom of any of WALEG.com artciles.
Nancy...u are being so brave to say christain lebanese arent arabs why dont u post ur comment under one name joelle, or dani or lolait and now nacy pick one...i am lebanese christain myself and i am very proud to say i am arabic, and i dont beleive that we are diff ppl living in one country because i beleive we all speak the same lang, same culture andsame roots...canada is a country where different people live in one country...and as for hariri ya i know he didnt build it from his own money but at least he encourged investors to invest in lebanon tell me what did we do as christains??? plus maybe u and who likes bachir jmail claims u arent arabs but lot of others claim they are arabs...and as for being united...we are jsut a rep of 20% of the christains ignorante who hate muslims.....and how could u not be arabic and all ur sorrounding is arabic and u speak arabic and u are from taht region anyways as SOME1 said its all Belad Al sham...
heheheheh! Do you know what i am doing after reading these comments on the page..i am laughing.Subhannahlah! i mean when one person has a comment,the other reallyy says some mean things back., and waleg why do you write back to people that have weak understadnings, i mean nancy thinks she's not arab(OKAY!!???!??!??!?!??!?), then let her think that she is not arab. i mean you can write back , but i think its a waste of time. as for many people here have different comments some may be true and some may be difficult to understand the harshness that the try to say, but i think that muslims are one.no matter if ur arab or not arab, plzzz try to stop the harsh comments here.plzzzzzz...i like giving comments back to people, but in a nice way so people may want to listen to you, and when they write back to you, they won't write back in a mean way, they would maybe try to understand the ur explanantion, if not then they might try to fight back, but not in a bad way, b/c they know they are dealing with somone who has a great wariety of understanding..
you know i wrote all this not knowing some of the things i wrote.hehehe..plzz don't mind me..
i just so mad at how people react at some people's comments.
inshallah islam will rejoin. we need back our strong muslims and countries
inshallah! have a wonderful day waleg, and all the people here..!!!!!!! :):)
"We arent arabs, lebanon was a christian country long before the muslims came, and the christians in lebanon are 40 percent, not 25 percent and we are more then the muslims but many of us live in america and latin america.
Why do u call us arabs when we dont want to be called arabs???
We lebanese arent one people, we are different people who live inside the same country."
Nancy chidiac...
Sorry to say but your post stinks of contradiction. One minute Lebanon was originally Christian, the next minute Lebanon is for all peoples. The next minute you are bashing Arabs whilst stating that Muslim Lebs are Iranian/ Arab rooted, then you blame Arabs for the damage in the country whilst brushing over the investment they put in Leb. You are an ungrateful madam who has not learned anything from the lessons of Palestine and its struggle for a homeland. You need to think a bit more carefully about the whole situation 'alone' coz u'll realize that u don't have a calculated opinion and what you have stated is just jumbled ideas affected by your feelings, family and affected by your peers. USA is a country made entirely of immigrants as are the entire two continents of America. Australia is another example of a nation of only immigrants…every country in this world is made of numerous and different cultures not just Leb, have some perspective.
Secondly what planet are you from? If I say it once, I’ve said it a thousand times. Sorry Waleg I am gonna use caps just this once: JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM are not the first ‘’’RELIGIONS’’’ to be founded in the Middle-East. PRIOR TO THESE SISTER RELIGIONS the people of Arabia, Iran, Europe, around the Mediterranean etc were made up of ‘CULTS’. They had their own BELIEF SYSTEM which included human worship, statue worship, animal worship, sun worship and so on. What you have said is so absurd…
You are basically stating that Lebs were in Lebanon as soon as the Earth was created and that the Lebs inhabiting it were Christians from the beginning of time…come on now people were in Lebanon before Jesus peace be upon him and BEFORE EVERY PROPHET (but Adam peace be upon him). It is not an island…it is not a country difficult to reach or requiring DISCOVERY. If you want to give your country to its true owners in terms of religion by YOUR OWN DEFINITIONS then the closest you’ll get is Hindus…not Christians.
Muslims are very very very aware that Islam is the last major religion on Earth. And guess what? That’s why we believe our religion makes the most sense…because we’ve had more time and more examples to reflect back at all the other major religions. And guess what again…most of the muslims ancestors are ‘KOFAR’ & ATHIEST CONVERTS, JEWISH CONVERTS, CHRISTIAN CONVERTS. And don’t forget who banned what was left of Judaism from Palestine…it was the Roman Catholics. The Arabs never invaded land, banned a religion from practising in lands or forced religions out. So if you are gonna start blaming then I challenge you to give me the name of one Arab from Arabia who destructed your dear country?
Last but not least…I dunno Hariri that well and I’m sure he made the most of his financial stability (the same way you would if you were given such fortunes) we Allah 2a3lam but don’t talk about a dead man like that regardless of what he is and what he did, it’s beyond disrespectful. The fact is you’ll never know him or what his dealings were and he’s gone so don’t pin judgement on him.
Great comment Lecia..
I live in Canada too..and yes we are so multicultural.you can be christian..muslim..jew..buddist..hindu..etc..and be canadian..no matter what race or culture you come from..I've never seen any person deny that..
But just to make one thing clear..to the HATER who keeps commenting ignorantly..Jibran's statement was said when Lebanon wanted Syria out.Yes that;s true...but if you had some common sense..its something we should always remember.."before and after" because you dont want to go back to civil war..its people like you..either christian or muslim which think in such a negative manner and cause problems to the country..
ALSO..many lebanese people muslim or christians live together.happily.in the same area...so stop being ridiculous and grow up.will you!
okaay. plz waleg let any one write wat ever he wants,unless it is offensive and really bad like that kuwaiti guy who use to talk about hizboallah.
hey and i just want to tell u 1 thing for the ones who are saying we dont want to be like iraq,all what is happening to us is becouse of one evil president who only cares about himself wich is saddam u know.and what is happening now between shi3a and sunnis most of it is just done by americans and some ppl r actually beliving it .but the majority muslim shi3a,sunni and christians r saying the same thing the americans r doing it.
but still what ur saying about leb is right go lebanon.
u see what they are doing in the basketballworlcup .
SMS hey girl long time no parle vouz. Yepsies my name is popular. I was gonna mention that b4, ino I think there are 2 other Sams, lovely people I'm sure with superb taste in nicknames but lets face it...not as opinionated.
How come you never seem to sign in on msn? Is it due to the time diff? 4 sure I missed u and our poetic to good to be true banter. A true force to be reckoned with I bet even Waleg missed us...trust me its rare when u meet someone who can give u the impression that u r not just talking to a bowl full of goldfish that would be of better use swimming around in your stomach.
Caps again waleg sorry: HAPPY BIRTHDAYYYYYY...
Happy birthday 2 u, happy birthday 2 u, I saw a wriggly goldfish, and I almost thought it was u...jokeee. It's gonna be a one day belated birthday wish.
oh shi t they lost lool i just knew it.
*too good to be true.... :-) ahlan
Well said..Sam..
I remember when i first went to lebanon in 1993..i was only 8 yrs old..how terrifying it was.in beirut and especially in the Norht..where Im from..and after living there for several yrs..how most of those terrifying images grew to beautiness once again..allah yerham il hariri..NOone can deny what he has done for lebanon and his family continue to do..Who was going to rebuild lebanon?? i wonder who.? those who fled away when lebanon was under war in the 80's and 90's..??? those who call themselves are neighbors and were steering our goverment to their advantage???who Nancy?? tha Man worked hard..some was from his own wealth and alot was from investments.. and so if we didnt have these investments..from other countries..how would are country rebuild itself and have a better economy and future..So nancy..its easy..think about it..get an american company..place it in lebanon..more work for people..more money for them..and money for the 2nd country..both countries are benefiting from this investment..its common sense..which you neglect..sadlyy. and denying the truth..of what hariri has done to lebanon and why people from all religions were shocked and sad when he died..he left a big gap..
There is a topic on NationalGeographic.com called "Who were the Phoenicians" and there are a lot of comments on the Forum regarding the issue which make a very interesting read. I think the so called "Non arabs" should read them. Like WALEG said read history people and you will come to realise the true origins of most Lebanese Christain families"Arab tribes before Islam" .
Hi Sam,
Thanks babe. Yes I think it is the time difference. I will send you an email actually tonight" you can hardly wait I bet". Bye.
I posted this in the morning and I forget to mention it is in the the October 2004 issue. This issue about Lebanese christains not being Arabs is ridiculous and is repeated almost daily everywhere. I am a Lebanese Christain Arab and I have yet to read an argument to convince me otherwise. Let us forget ancestory and genes and so on, and talk about the present and face the fact that we are part of the Arabic middle east in an Arab country and that is how we are viewed by the whole world. Call me naive and simple, but why can we not be just Lebanese belonging to the Arab region?. We always charactarise ourselves as christains and muslims Lebanese and so on (we all do it), just Lebanese for once. Even if it is proved that some Lebanese carry Phoenician or whatever genes, what does that prove? nothing, Phoenicians existed 5000 years ago. I certainly will not deny my heritage, a Lebanese Arab of christain beliefs. I am not the person I am today if it was not for this make up. I can not deny it and I am proud of it.
Actually sam is right, we always blame others about Lebanon's problems, but we forget that we let ourselves be used. When we follow a useless leader because of religion or whatever, and accept the course that the socalled leader takes us on even if it is not in our country's interest, we cannot blame others who take advantage to further their own interests.
*Christain and Muslim Lebanese.
all i would like to say,is that people r8 now shoudn't argue upon the isssue about who is muslim lebense and who is arab and who is chritian arab.all we need to discuss is lebenon itself as a whole,no matter whose living in there (muslims chritians,etc.),,they are all gonna die if thier living in lebenon...PPPL SHOULD BE PROUD TO BE FROM LEBENON NO MATTER WUT RELGION U ARE..
AND IF UR LEBENSE UR ARAB! I WOULD THIK THIS WITH MY UNDERSTANDING (ONLY IF I HAVE A SMALL UNDERSTANDING)
o sorry waleg,i capitalized..plzz don't delete
have a great day waleg and all
I'm an Arab sunni muslim and I'm damn proud of that! Altough I live in Belgium, I will one day leave this country and go live in the Arab world.
Arabs should be proud to be arabs and not hiding after an American or European identety.When people ask me what my origins are I say them I!m Arab and proud to be one.
If you do not respect your own identety, you reject everything that made you what you actually are; religion , parents, culture and so on.
Be proud!!!!!!
Faysal, ma'a salama
thats right faysal im with you
i live in australia and as u know it is a very racist country anyways i work in woolworths and people ask me if i am greek and i reply back saying im lebanese, and they just look at me weird
so why should u be afraid off telling your own identity
Shirin u have woolworths in australia? I thought those stores only existed in the uk. I always go there for my dose of kinder bueno...yummy must get some 2 day.
hezboallah long life
israel to hell
to SOMEONE
Iam an shíiti muslim from germany!!!
And you say that the shi3a are very strength i think you are wrong my sugar!!! Because you are not right!! The shiits are the ones who make lebanon free in 2000 and i think in 2006 too because the freedom get all the lebanese not only the shiitis ore sunnis or Christs you now what i mean?? At first we are all arabs then we are all lebanese and then we are all muslims without saying shiits or sunnits because mulims are muslims and the only difference between sunnis and shiits is the prophet ALI allayhi al salam and nobody say to you that you must love him bass inta lazim tidafi3 3ala al muslimin wa 3an kull balladak ok!!! And for that you say that the shiits are strong look at haifa wehbi is she strong!!!!
lol yh there is heaps of them
Im from oman and i love lebonan. Hizbollah is the greatest army, inchallah they will destroy the enemy.
jews and americans are demon, they need to respect islam.
keep up the good work ya lebonan!
bahibak ya lebonan! bahibak mwaaahhh!
hizbollah supporters are f***ing persian traitors.go to hell