wow silvana good question...umm well u gota go wid who eva u feel is right..but in general i would pik my country..even tho people of ur religion are supposed 2 be closer to you..as they have simialar views and a similar way of thinking...but to me my country is very imporant...but so is my religion bas ya3ni...ok this is so confusing...y such a hard question ahhhh...ok wooh..bk 2 my point... both are equally important...but i would pik my country...becoz da topic of arguent has nothing to do with religion..so being against them..doesnt mean im going against my religion...so all is good.. :D

COUNTRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!

MOI HAS SPOKEN!!!!

i would go with country, because nowadays all countries have different religions but they still stick together for example lebonon, egypt, morocco etc...

I would go with which ever side is right! For example, disagreeing with your religious leader doesn't change your religion. And disagreeing with your country doesn't change your nationality. Often times when argurments come up where you are forced to decide country or religios brothers/sisters--you should choose which side is right because often times, you're argueing with the people in charge, not the people themselves.
Does that make sense?(I ask with a confused look on face as I reread what I have just written :)

of course i will defence my religion even though we are a group of people from different countries rather than defencing country man who are from other religion , other thoughts, other beliefs, other attitude...etc ....the religion is above any thing else ....my speech is npt against any religion ...bcoz alwayz Muslims are so friendly with the other religions and we will not fight just bcoz to insist our religion bcoz every one ifs free with his own religion ,,,so no war and no fight ...let's us all live with each other with different religions, different attitudes ,,but of course all sides or all religions just respect the other religion and must believe that all religion hasits own customs , its own behaviors and ethics ....so why we not all together in peace

to Linda Haddad

your comment is totally right..i agree with you 100% ...bcoz the subject is not about religion , bit it is about who is right and who is wrong >...and whoever is right in that satuation I will be with him or them in their side either he or they from my country or they or he from my religion,,, I will just pick the one who is right to be with ...bcoz we all have to defence the right thing not just be with someone just bcoz he is from my religion or from my country even if he is wrong .....

as well as I also like your comment JojoActain

This was a good question
But i would neither go with my country
or the same religion, i would go after the
one who is right .. I mean sometimes people
from your own family makes problems so what about
ppl from the own culture(religion/country etc).. But if i would choose one of them, i would say ppl from my country coz i hate when people goes after the religon .. coz everyone got the right 2 belive in what they want, sure you can change your religon but you can never change your homecountry!

i would definetly pick my country!!!! no mater what i think the people of my country are closer to me than any other country, no matter what the religion is!!!!

Religion is personal and it depends on how the individual interprets it. Nationality is not personal, it's just what God picked for you and you have absolutely no influence or say in the matter, so even if your country is wrong in a situation you will be blinded by the fact that you have more sympathy towards it. On the basis that we can see the environment diminishing and one day the world will be destroyed and on the basis that i won't enter heaven or hell carrying a passport and on the basis that we have become a multicultural, multi linguistic and a multi everything else world with globalization making us seem intrinsically smaller...then i would say nationalism is fairly material and contains elements of blindness...and so as much as i love my country i don't really have it as a priority, i would rather be on the side of he or she who has more care for me & common interests with me where it counts rather than someone who apparently has the same puppet leader. I don't consider anyone to be my leader except for God and so that's religion i guess, though i accept advice and debate and i accept the fact that i need to be be taught and disciplined, but i won't allow myself to be limited by only getting that from countrymen as it will inevitably narrow my own horizons and understanding. Nationalism does and has created devastating wars and for no logical reason perhaps except power and that one country wants what another country doesn't have. We also have to remember that a 'nation' is created by a set of 'lines' we call borders and we can't forget who put those borders where they are in the first place. An example is when the British were in India they used the tactic of setting up train lines to divide civilians in India in order to make them consist of fewer people and consequently 'fewer people to control' therefore making the British soldiers life easier and weakening the colonized. And as we're aware it was never the Arabs, Asians or the Africans who divided their own lands but it was the Europeans of past, so it's foolish to succumb to that idea even if it is past history. None of the prophets that I love to death are from the land of my parents, and quite frankly no one except God knows where our roots lie and i am sure they don't come from just one place. You can't expect that generation after generation after generation...and on and on that we just stay in the same place...People Move And People Mix!!! And just some advice from me is don't let your environment and surroundings determine who you are as a person, you really do have to search for the things you want and the things that make sense in life. Nothing will be handed on a serving dish for any of us except our nationality.
Saying all that i would hope to be a good example for my country but i would hope to be a better one for my religion.

And good question Silvana, I've always thought about this matter so well done for bringing it up!

Rephrase:

Nationalism does and has created devastating wars and for no logical reason perhaps except power and that one country wants what another country has (and mainly for what its land contains).

Nationalism also allows us to have preferences without even having visited those countries e.g. i love this country more because its my neighbour (where's the logic?) or i love that country over there more because the girls are babes (where's the logic?)...and so u will have more loyalty towards babe land...Nonsense! The competitive nature is negative too the hooliganism of football, the space wars of the 1960's to 1980's between Russia and USA...it excluded the rest of the world and shot up billions upon billions of money whilst millions of kids in Africa are dying of hunger because they are too busy proving themselves as the bigger and better country!

Enough said...i need some chocolate after all of that...Swiss or Belgium chocolate too!

i love my religion very well and i would protect it with my hearty but i habe to go with my country because that's what keeps me united and bringing us together and without this piece of land i don't know where to go and what to call home. Becasue this is where i grew up and learned many things even if i am in onther country right know and is a citizen i would still call lebanon my home. We, i am mean both christian and muslim built it together and we have to defend it not from each other but from outside harm. We created this country together and we should protected togehter as on nation. Not fight over a stupied thing and make a civil war out of it.

of course the guest who wrote it i mean 'silvana' is lebanese.

isnt it?
if anyone knows plz tell me!
let me tell u y!!
bcause lebanon has 18 "ta2ife".
ta2ife: (ex. muslim sunni, or christian ortodox..ect..)
and it's the most country that talks in this things.
i if u ask frm where i m! im frm lebanon. that' y i no!

so silvana frm where r u?

"ALLAH,AL-WA6AN,AL-AMIR"

thats the header logo of kuwait constitution and this is considered as on of the most amendments..and its express itself of course 'am gonna pick my religion 4 granted..and thats what our country tought us.

a great question
well i would choose whatever side is right
but honestly i think i'd priortize my religion

ah srry i answer i'd pick ma country!!!
plzz silvana answer ma question which was frm where r u?
thnx big kiss 4 all of u !!
muwaaaaaaaaah.

Death to Religion and Nationalism, Live long Humanity!

Wow, a somewhat intelligent discussion, there is hope for this site yet!

Anyway, sam, you are somewhat right, and somewhat wrong at the same time. Let me explain.

You are absoloutley right about religion forming who you are. In religion, you are taught how to act, behave, morals, eating habits, etc. So this obviously forms some of you charecter, but also, the people you hang out with help form you charecter too. This has to do with where you live, obviously.

You are also taught nationalism where you live. When you are young, you are taugh to love you country, and you admire the people that died to preserve it and help it grow and prosper.

obviously, someone that lives in america has a different attitude towards things, not to mention personality, then someone that lives in Lebanon.

ooff thats a realy confusing question...

both mean a lot 2 me, and 2 be honest there is no answer 2 that... it depends one the situation realy.

but would prefer not 2 be in a situation like that... il stand by my country, and by my religion. but if i must choose, i dont now what i would do realy... mayby just CRYY and kill my self :S

4 real its a HAARD situation...

:( :(

...from a morrocan, egyptian an lebanese MUSLIM...

Adam...it depends on how u see it to judge whether it's wrong or right. I for one am British born with Egyptian parents...where would my loyalty lie? If my education is British...and yet if i believe the war they have contributed with America is wrong...where is my loyalty? I know that Egypt is a capitalist country as are all the other Arab countries, some of those also being Kingdoms...i do not believe that someone can be born into a status aka the Queen or the Moroccan, Jordanian kings...will i ever fight for them? dead straight 'no'.

I do know Egyptian men who are married to Irish women who have kids born and raised in the UK...where does their loyalty lie? perhaps one day the two 'homelands' that i feel loyalty towards fight each other...is it not possible? dead straight yes...where's my loyalty? The short answer for me is that it's with God and then with myself and then with my true loved ones.

I really really don't want 2 offend anyone but i think if you are born in the same country and have lived their your whole life and your parents are from the same country then it is legitimate that the answer will be somewhat less open minded. I respect everyone's opinion to speak but seriously it's essential that you experience culture in its variety in order to be able to speak about it. Trust me i know people with combined roots from the East and the West. It's not fair on those people or on us to have to choose 'one' nation, but to choose who you want to be and choose what you want to believe is unsurpassed.

And if you care about your country and your beliefs, do the gutsy thing of introducing your countrymen to your beliefs in a peaceful manner. There really isn't any need to limit yourself and always have to pick a favourite, but your belief is your central existence, your identity, your knowledge, your truth and it's your soul. I urge you all to embrace your soul before any other you wilfully give your soul to any other human being.

Sorry i know i talk a lot but i can't help myself. I wanted to add a small point and that's the idea of division or rivalry. If you see it with a clear perspective then surely you can't fail to see that it's in a human beings nature to make divisions be it sexual, racial, religious, national, things concerning health, power or whatever. To an extent we need divisions and for sure on some levels we should maintain it where it begins to interfere with respect.
But my question is where would division end? For instance lets say Europe rivals Africa; Egypt rivals Greece; Cairo rivals Alexandria; Christians in Alex rival Muslims; two Alexandrian streets rival each other; someone on a street in Alexandria rivals his neighbour...where is it supposed to end.

If we know that our natural urge is to be segregated and make divisions for no precise reason then surely we need to except that as a human being to another human being we need to make effort and communicate rather then rely on instinctive and possibly deceptive instincts. In that respect it's out ability to be diverse and to use our 'Brain' or Mind Power which separates us from what we really should highlight and that's animals. Do i have more loyalty to a dog from Egypt or the UK then a good person from another country. We treat animals far better then we do humans and its such a shame because we really are becoming greedy essentially for things which provide us with no real knowledge and expansion.

*I urge you all to embrace your soul before any other wilfully giving your soul to any other human being.

*...we should maintain it except to the point where it begins to interfere with respect.

For crying out loud...sorry i can't get the sentence right!

*I urge you all to embrace your soul before wilfully giving your soul to any other human being.

hurraah 4 that!

I thinks we should all be loyal to Haifa Wehbe. If we all do so we all will be united.

Lets all be Haifa , Long Live Haifa

Leik El Wawa, Bous El Wawa, Khali El Wawa Yso7....

Only Haiaf can treat our wawas ;)

Well, I would go with religion. I was born in the middle east and raised in the US. I will not side with my country if they are not doing what I think is right.

hello, if SILVANA is reading the comments.
i asked and wanna ask another time frm where is she?
thnx
i answered the que. i would go wid ma country cos at the end i'll live in ma country (im not living in lebanonin romania).
this question was already asked 4 some ppl on LBC by Marcele ghanem!

ps. the votes r till now 4 the religion more then 4 the country men. i think bcause the ppl r voting r most frm the gulf and arabia saudia. it is the same 4 them if they vote 4 there country men OR religion because they r all the same religion!!!!!! think about it ppl!!!
sha4lo ma5kon ya 3ame!!

ANYWAY PPL STOP ARGUING ABOUT RELIGIONS!
JUST WE R ALL SISTERS AND BROTHERS IN THIS WORLD NO MATTER WAT RELIGION/COUNTRY..

ISNT IT?? 7ADA YRED!!!
NP IF U R NOT WID MA IDEA JUST SAY!!!
MUWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

to ahbal

I agree with u .... look at Haifa ,she is muslim but unfurtunayly she never present Islam at all ,,,so if there is atough satuation for example between Haifa who is Muslim and another christian church man I will defintly choose to be with the christian church man bcoz absaloutly he is right while Haifa who is muslim can't ever represent the real Islam Behaviors

so what I try to say is that u have to defense the side which is right and this is just depend on the different situations...so u cant defence on Haifa just bcoz she is muslim while just critisize some one bcoz he is christian or from other country

so it really depend on the satuation to choose who is right either he is from your country or other country or either he is from your religion or from other religion.... Islam teach us to do the right things as well as tobe with the right ones not to be with someone just bcoz he is from our country or just bcoz he is from our religion

Islam for applying Justic
so we have to be justic and fair in our judgemnets in the differnt satuations

agree with quiet angel 100%

if the country doesn't apply the religion issue and behaviors ,,so we have to be with our religion defintly

actually both of them are very important to me but if u force me to choose one that I prefer more ,,,for sure I will choose My religion bcoz the religion man can not make any thing against the coutry if they really apply the religion correctly as if it is while if the religion man didn't apply the real behaviors of the religion in communication with the others .....so for sure I will choose country man in this case

agree with wa2eel and queit angel 1000000000% ...this is also what I want to say

coming from lebanon, the smallest place on earth which contains multiple confessions and a diversity of religious origins, I would go for the country!! I defend ANY LEBANESE.... honestly, I am closer to any LEBANESE even if that person has a different religion than ANY other person on earth coming from my religion.

Yes I am Lebanese suzi. Sorry I did not have time before to log in.
sam Great answer , I also wondered about people who are born or live overseas. Personally, I would go for my country and my people.

i am with u ahmad, i am lebanese first and then christian, and i will defend any lebanese whatever is his relegion i dont care, but also this lebanese person must be right...
long live lebanon and the multiconfessionlism...

yes I thought of this because I was watching the Program, and the girl's answer shocked me. We should all be logical and embrace humans and humanity. We should think of our fellow human beings before religion or nationality. However being Arabs, I do believe we are blinded by emotions and really our heads never figure into it, not much anyway.

lookin at the situation in all arab countries, i thik that the ppl of those countries wud pick country over religion. this is cus if they chose religion, then they wud help each other muslim 2 muslim and situations like palestinee/iraq wud not happen cus countries wud help each other!

if it was me, i wud side with my religion. mayb cus i'm iraqi and i think ever1 knoes about the situation there. i live in the uk so i DEFINATLY side with my religion!

hi, thnx SILVANA 4 answering.
which girl do u mean the muslim sunni?

wow sam..ur so cute..writing so much, bless ya..bas yh u make good points..u should b sum kinda president or sumink..... :S

and yh i agree wid ahmad...i would defend sum1 from my country no matter der religion, coz sum1s religion makes no difference 2 me....livin in england..where i have 1 muslim friend and da rest are mostly christian, makes me not judge people coz of der religion n stuff..whereas if i were bought up in an arab country..i probably would have been less open minded like sam sed...

ok i dnt fnk der was ne point 2 my comment..bas yalla..ill post it neway

Hi-di-ho me again,

Right there's a bit in what u wrote Silvana that i skimmed over which is 'Bearing in mind that the cause of the fighting has nothing to do with religion'...simple answer is that i wouldn't get involved because there's nothing that i would wanna defend except for what i perceive to be gods word and my prophets in their true representations/ forms. If it was like Pakistani Muslims vs Egyptian Christians and they were fighting on which of these tastes better; milk chocolate or dark chocolate...and the Egyptian Christians picked milk with the Pakistanis picking dark...then tab3an i would pick milk choc (siding with the egy christs) even as a Muslim. Totally nothing 2 do with religion! But it would make me think that they were both tafheen for fighting over something so irrelevant. And furthermore it would mean that i am making a decision based on my own preference and views of the 'subject matter' at hand and not based upon who is what and where from etc. I understand that Leb is a small country but you're a big community...there are diminished or diminishing communities like the gypsies (who don't have 'one' homeland or the Bedouin's or the Red Indians that have to integrate with society whether they liked it or not and i don't think we should fight a cause just because we feel different and it empowers us on some level to gang up with all the other people who share that same illogical and irrational feeling of 'difference'. I think we should fight it coz we believe in it having had an objective outlook on both sides as hard as it may be. We didn't create our countries, we polluted it ma3lesh but god created the world and he did not put the barriers in it. Extra info just 4 the hell of it...the continents were once upon a time conjoined as one and that land in modern terms is referred to as Pangaea which then divided into two lands referred to as Gondwana to the south and Laurasia to the north. We're determined by so many things not just immigration but also by the Earth's History and by Plate Tectonics and Globalization. We just make people feel excluded or isolated when we gang up with people who are from the same 'hood' so to speak. There's such beauty in the ability to fuse with other cultures and religions but as people we always look for the crack in order to make divisions which is a shame i think. I mean if we have a Christian community and then we exclude Muslims, you will off course eventuate in the Catholic/ Protestant/ Jehovahs' Witness etc. division which will just continue for as long as we're on this fickle planet. The Catholics will make a Church for White people and a Church for Black people & on & on & on. The old have to worship at point a and the young at point b, there will quite literally be no end.

Bas ana 2olt ily 3andy!

Some of u see religion as something your parents beckon on to you and therefore it kind of gives you a disability (u make decisions u don't fully understand 4 instance)...i agree to an extent but it's up 2 u to do the searching and find the sense and 2 question every single thing on earth, and every single person u come across and i think we owe it to each other to be educated about the other religions.

The only time i would go against a Christian Egyptian is when they offend Islam. And in a debate seated with Muslims and Christians, if the debate is about the validity of Prophet Mohammed's (peace be upon him) message...I would go with the Muslims and i don't care if they are aliens, angels or zombies but there are some things so precious that i will defend because they inhabit my mind and my heart. Your nationality is as deep as your complexion in that respect. But if a Muslim began arguing the point like a hooligan then for sure i would separate myself from him or her and debate the point completely alone if i have to.

Trust me though when i leave Egypt, i even miss the rubbish in the roads and the smelly rotten egg (factories) aroma that whiffs by my nose in those humid 10 million mile taxi's. So i miss everything in it and mostly the people.

Masrya, if u come back here...hypothetically lets say Egypt got through to the world cup and had to play against England...who'd u support?

Someone come and glue my fingers to the wall please!

oh my dears ..... where should or ow should i start this is a very sensitive question and topic .... and this is one of our biggest porblem nowdays in some arabic country while most of the arabic country are muslim 90 to 95% are muslims the rest are christians but the problemes is that when you areand a christian born in a differnet society out of the arabic world you 'll find yourslef in a powerfull chrisitna country that share your religion but doesn't fo anything like what it suppose to be and then most of your friends will be arabic msulim .....\\\

i'm gonna stop here other wise i'm gonna write up to 20 pages in here ...
this a very is sensitive subject again

i'm an arab and i was bron and raised christian but most of my friends are arabic muslims here and i will never change them i really didn't like kids from here they where really differnet to me when growing up so most of my friend where the arabic muslim from back home ...so here i fell that i'm more into my culture way more than into my religion but still i am confused cause most of the people from culture that i really like them and wouldn't like to live other people than them are all pretty much arab muslim and while my country is fighting those people and i still know that my country is doing somehow something wrong in there .... so ... what should i do ...

i think i'll more stick with my people from my origin even if they are from a different religion because i was born like them and raised like them ..except when i comes to religion and we're not that religious in my family ...

oh god is this mater there's no who's more right or wrong nowdays you really have to divide between and choose one of them cause i fell that anyway the arabic culture is owned and part of the muslim relgion no matter what ...
so i will stick with my religion as christian but i'll support my peoples who are mostly arbic muslim from 21 out of 22 arabic country no matter what ... cause again i'm more into my culture and not my religion and see things the same way they see it exactly except in the religion things and so far we're not having a religous war nowdays or a crusade even when it did happend before in the past the arabic christian supported the arabic muslim in the crusade ...so i don't think i'll change and i'll be like my ancestors ...

oh god that's it for now tell me what you think please am i the only like this or what ... ?

I am canadian and proud to be one, however my canadian identity have helped me to be not as nationalistic, as it taught me that it is such a a narrow minded concept, my i have canadian friends from different origins, scottis, irish, english, french, jamaican, ethiopian, serbian, chinese and what have you!

but if i get back on canadian nationalism it is when i'm confronted with values that do not correspond to my canadian values, i will just cringe and not feel at home.

however , i am from an iraqi origin, and it does have some influence on me, as i present my self as an arab canadian or an iraqi canadian but at my core, my values is very similar to that of an irish canadian, so unlike to the ones compared in iraq or the middle east, i think it is the FREEDOm that canada makes me feel that makes me feel so close to this homeland, it is the canadian nationalism that is so broadly defined and so easily maleable to whatever progressive changes it percieves necessarily to go forward, that what makes me feel love canada, the very fact i can uphold views on religion whatever they are, i love my freedom, although it is a capitalist country although we've been disdained stereotypically as a socialism country from vehemently capitalist countries ie. US but i agree with our welfare measures, however it is still capitalist and at times i feel silly paying all those dineros.

Now as an Iraqi, i love the arabic language, and i watch the iraqi news 24/7........but then iraq seems such a misreable countries and the values it uphold would not make it able to progress given our neighbouring countries big pain in the behind,
and to

just_another_arab, don't you think putting ur religion first will make the iraqi situtaion worse, i mean political parties based on ur sunni or shi3a orientation is a really bad idea, as it will keep on promoting the 6a2ifiya.....in iraq, i might champion iraqi nationalism however, i think people should see each other as human first.

And again, it all bottoms down to our humanity......

i mean think about it what do u make urself into this identity based on the other.......do you suggest or do think it is right, that this identity is fully composed once you have this other, the "enemy"?

make peace ppl and not war.

ciao,

iraqi canadian.

its really confusing !!!
I'd normally choose my religion cuz thats wut it orders us BUT when I think about it I feel more close 2 my country !!!

yes shibl you know what i mean ....
this is really confusing and mostly the case for us arabic christians born else where out of the arab world we find that we are arabs no matter what and we love to death our culture and our peoples as well but whenever we look for our peoples and our most loved one we laugh with we care for we get along with... and we try to look for our roots and orgin we find it coming from a muslim arabic country and most of the those peoples we spend time with and they're part of us by heritage and culture and we 're pretty much the same the majortiy of them will be muslim arabic so that's why it's a complex situtation and mostly if you're born in the western world and in christian country you find out that's your country of birth of the same religion as you is some how against the majority of your people from a different religion .... so what can you do then ... for me i'll stick with my people and my heritage and country of origin ...cause religion we never see it but we do see and fell our people from our background ... no maatter what seriously i think shows how much is strong is the love of the arabic people to their culture .

forget about religions it is just an extra barriers for our life and if you decide to practice it do it personnal and secretly like spiritual don't bring it out show it .

I am glad with the way the Lebanese people answered. Are the way people truly feel?. I hope so. It makes you wonder about the civil war Lebanon went through though. Such a shame, I hope these days never come back. I can not help but laugh at dina's comment regarding the pain in the behind part, so true.

Sorry suzi, yes not her well thought out answer but her first one.

My religion! Of course! My country is nothing like me, my religion is me its what makes me a good person! Allahu akbar!

Silvana,

Many countries in the middle east need some bits and pieces of nationalism, be it lubanese, iraqi, egyptian or whatever; however this nationalism can not be excessive as we do not want RAscism and discrimination, also it would be another easier tool for political appartus to point who is iraqi or who is not for example based on their interest(s), so it might create an easier way for authoritarian rule.

I call for civil nationalism for the time being, however in the long run , a cosmopolitan approach to who we are is the way to go, since identity should not be imposed!

Sam...tab3an egypt!!!! i swear egypt is everyfng 2 me..i take any chance 2 let people know im egyptian...its 2 cool walahi...but newayzzzzzzzzz
like if egypt are out then den id want england to win or turkey, if dey play...wt bout u???

If it's Eng Vs Egy...i guess my heart says Egy but my mind says Eng simply on the basis that i think they would have more of a chance getting to the final and i would just presume that Egy would get knocked out at a later stage. But i would defo base my judgement on the players behaviour and skill at that specific time. I actually think Egy are one of the cleanest teams in the world. And the Egy fans would have me in hysterics so my heart would be with them. I get annoyed with all those girl fans with national flags painted on their faces & their knockers reaching out to bounce on the pitch and all those beer guzzlers.

Then i guess i would support any other Arab or African country (remember Saudi Vs Germany 0-8...i felt embarrassed 4 them even though i ain't Saudi). I've always had a soft spot for the Italian team...Hope none of those South Americans take it this year & def not France! Speaking of which...Zidane, Algerian playing for France...wonder if he'd pick country or religion. He's ancient now God give him the strength and all but i'm sure he'll have a lot to reflect on with the new found extra-time...oops i didn't mean that pun!

Religion.....
Your religion is what you believe, its what you stand for and the principles by which you live. I'm Palestinian and I love Palestine but Islam is more important to me. Infact I'm surprised most of you are answering country(not that theres anything wrong with that). But most people on this board seem to me to have pride in their nation so I should have expected it.

Yezen: I support the palestinian cause, NOT because you are figting for religion, because Palestine is your country and u live there. I know christian palestinians who consider palestine is their own country and are willing to go all along to get their country. YOU OUGHT to know the VALUE OF A COUNTRY, OF A LAND, OF A CITIZENSHIP after all ur people lived thru. Not islam only, first the land, YOUR place!

Thinking only religion is a bad thing either for islam, or christianity or humanity. The country is what u live for, u live in and finally u die in. This is my beleif.

BUT when u live in a multiconfessional society, u learn to adore others... I can't even think that I would defend any other (either coming from Qatar, Koweit or any other) instead of defending my country fellows.

this is how I feel and this is how I will act. Every country has a different conception of things, and that makes the difference. Religion is for personal beleif, but I beleive in a unity, and any christian lebanese is a brother even more, shares the same blood. While other people that are muslims in other countries just don't have the same vibe I have, the Lebanese identity, citizenship.

As for the idea of pride, it is ill minded and too shallow: I would totally agree with any egyptian who says he defends Egypt fellow more than other people from other countries but same religion and I would never call this pride.