A Lebanese nongovernmental organization, Helem (Arabic for ‘Dream‘), which fights for the rights of homosexuals, has recently begun publishing Barra Magazine (Arabic for ‘Out’), the first quarterly Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersexed and Queer magazine in the Arab world.
[Via: Sabbah’s Blog]
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heey im an arabic gay.. why not.. we need something like this stand up for our rights..
It's about time that the tuti-fruits of the arab world will come out of the closets. That applies from elmaghrib to elachrak. Hommosexuality is so flagrant among some arab men/women (lez/bi women, and gay/bi men). They are so sugar-coated that they attract bees, and claim that they are flies.
Henceforth, once that pandora's box is open, it can't be shut.
"my apology if some of you might get offended"
hey someone, are you a guy or a girl????
ONE WORD...PATHETIC! stakfarallah!
goood for you:) atleast now they are being recognized!!!! thats really great :)
All the bad trends start in lebanon where we have a large majority of christians...Muslims cant be gay and still claim to be muslims since islam doesnt accept gays.
regarding the above comment,are you saying that muslims can not be gay.are you lying to yourself or others.just because it is against religion,it does not mean it does not happen.i know a lot of muslims who are gay.for your information it is against the christain religion as well.it freaks me out myself, i do not think it is natural.however live and let live.do not enter religion into everything.
WTF!!!!
reallly pethatic!..
Next thing you know they'll be making arab porn movies. Like they haven't done that before.
Once again pathetic and once again the arabs have gone down so low as to copy other societes.
And as for SOMEONE, what rights do u think u have?!? To display this to young children and teach them about this?!?
to jjj@jj.com,
You are so right. All bad trends do tend to start in lebanon. And Kuwait too.
in also in dubai where there is a big european community
To jjj@jj.com and to anon
Don't u ever ever ever talk about Lebanon like that and espacially abou CRISTIANS
Have Islam tought u how to disrespect others
That's pathetic !!!!!
And for this subject we don't have nothing to do with others
There are free to do whatever they want although i'm against it
But leave them to God so He judges them
what a shame
disgustting
pathetic
real shame
hey am an arabic lesbian ..is it wrong ?? mish bi 2ide :S may anyone help me plz ?
i dont think its wrong, but dont u think its kinda weird??! i think so! i know alot of gay guys and lesbians, and i dont see anything wrong with them! but it kinda gets weird around them tho!
be_ur_self, where do live? and how old r u?
is ur family ok with it? how did u figure out that u were a lesbian?
Astgfiroulah al3adeem!!
my family ?! they don't know and am not ready to tell them akeed 100%.. i figured out when i loved a girl ..she was my best friend ..i thought that this love is natural ya3ne as any 2 friends love each other ..but mine was not natural.. i loved her really ..ya3ne i can't express more.. may u give me ur email.. better maybe ?? it's personal shway
hey be_ur_self...
i no what ur talking bout...i no EXACTLY how u feel
im 17..and i think i might feel the same..i dont no what to do either..and its not like i want to be...it just..happend...i couldnt help it..its sooo weird
Nadine, me too i don't like to be like that !! but it's out of my hand now.. i donno what to do ..i can't tell my friends also to help me.. omg ! it's harsh .. look am sure that many people face this problem (some of them don't consider it as a problem maybe) but they don't tell it.. but this is love and we can't stop ourselves from loving !!!
omg be_ur_self i soo agree with u..what can we do..its the way it is..even tho its haram..but its not like we can go with it...we have to hold ourselves..and thats so hard..cuz when i see a pretty girl..i have to look hahaha ;)
well i agree with both of u guys, but i'm straight, sometimes i looked at pretty girls, i say they are pretty, but i'm not sure what you girls feel! be_ur_self my email is malooky13@hotmail.com. i'll try to help u as much as i could!! oh i have a question... when u see a really hotttt guy what do u feel??? Nadine u can answer too lol
heey!! im an arabic gay guy.. it's not shameful that im gay, I'M REALLY PROUD OF BEING GAY.. i have a b.f we have fun together and do other stuff (A)...
and i hope people here will just stop look down to gays.. l2no HAD AL2SHI msh b2ede.. I WAS BORN GAY THE YOU DAY YOU WERE BORN STRAIGHT..
and enough y3ni!!!! it's not disgusting, it's not pathetic..
im 19 yrs old.. and even im a muslim.. plz stop saying stuff like this "muslims cant be gay".. coz l2no habal.. there are thousands and even millions of gays in the arab world.. why should we escape from the reality.. u need to face it!!!!!
byye..
i live in australia,and i have a lot of friends who are homosexuals,they are gorgeous human beings,they have their good and bad points.believe me ,most of them are arabs and muslims.i hear they are everywhere in the arab world,especially in egypt and saudi arabia.i do not think you should involve religion into everything.they should be given a voice.fanatics are given a voice,why not them.if a trend starts in lebanon,you do not have to follow it.people are not blind and stupid,hypocracy is so rife in the arab world.
PPL, all we are saying is that muslims who are gay should stop claiming that Islam accepts gayism, cause islam clearly stands against it.
I am not saying that there arent trash in the arab world that picks on trends in the western world. But remember, the arab world is muslim and it should always be guided by islam regardless of the minorities that live under its fences and the pressures from the non-muslim world.
The non believers will never be happy till we become like them: materialistic and secular. Those who are on the wrong path do not like to see anyone on better grounds than them.
lol leb ppl need help wtf is dis
to lil mo, you are so gay.deny it all you can but these people are present.at least we do not put them in cells like animals.i think you probably wish you had access to the magazine.gay gay gay!!!
In all religions being gay is forbidden because it is not natural. You should consider it an illness instead of being proud. Publishing a magazine like this is ridiculous, pathetic, and sooo lebanese. If a magazine is published about rape, murder, and other things that are WRONG does it make them right? Or is it just cool to be gay? ALLAH YISHFEEKU. Its ramadaan have a little respect. I feel sick.
is insulting the lebanese your idea of respect,i thought in ramadan you should feel a bit tolerance.these people exist with or without the magazine,in other arab countries more than lebanon.respect us .there is no comparing bthis to rape, no one is forcing you to be homosexual unless you are inclined that way.that is your problem
TO NIMO,you made me laugh,since when did the arab world become non materialistic.i was born with the saying,you are worth the amount of money you have(or something like that)homosexuality is not the biggest problem we have,it has always existed.no one is forcing you to read the magazine.it is in lebanon,after all,i am sure it will not be distributed anywhere else.next time you will be blaming lebanon for poverty,illiteracy,human rights abuses and all crimes existant in the arab world.now that is the pathetic thing,not homosexuality which exists with or without magazine.
i still wait for anyone to explain what's shameful, disgusting and pathetic with being gay?? NOTHING..i'm a muslim ( i fast , pray and read quran) is it my fault that god 5al2ni gay and love men?? is it my fault?? ..and plz i don't wanna hear anyone say we are sick. coz i'm not. shwet a7tram y3ni yali bt2olo ramdan w absr sho.. i was born gay and i can't control myself.. hadya ashe b dami that i love men..is it my fault that when i felt im gay ( almost when i was 13 yrs old i was sleeping at night and had a nightmare.. dunno i was falling and a guy saved me).. but to be honest it really hurted me im gay, i spent hours and hours crying, i felt that i differ from other and even less... but now what should i do?? should i say naah i'm not gay and i love womens?? my whole life will be a big lie..i will only live in dreams..i should live with the fact i'm gay and love men i don't feel anything when i look at a pretty girl.. and for your information there are millions of gay in the arab world...
you should face it!!
btw im ready to talk with anyone here.. just leave me ur msn and i will add u if u wanna..
waiting for your comments (sorry my english is realy bad).
to someone,they will not explain,because they do not know.they just know it is against religion.you could do what they do,marry a woman,lie to her and yourself,and have an affair in secret.that is the arab world they talk about,do everything in hiding and pretend you a moral person in puplic.i am waiting for someone to convince me otherwise.HYPOCRACY
hmmmm...OK...when i see a HOTTT guy...i look, sure...there Hot loool
wow .. just as u feel ;) hehe
umm by the way, sweetprincess and Nadine where do u live and what's ur age?? Nadine i've added u to my list but i hope ur email is not wrong :)
and to Someone tanish sho badak feyon ..ya3ne law keno bi our place ma keno 7ako hek am sure. So kil wa7ad yi7tirim 7alo w yi7tirim ghayro w keef bifakro !!
what's that..nobody and i mean NOBODY is born gay, god created us in one way, allah didn't creat stright people and gay people,we're all the same,but to be gay or not is something u control, u choose the path u want to go,and i think that most gay people are victims of the society, most of them didn't choose actually, but maybe thier families did(not on purpose), or thier friends. but "if there's a will there's a way" if u don't want to be gay u CAN be straight, but if u want, then u'll have to accept the fact that u'll be rejected and outcasted from alot of people, cuz its just not normal. and as u all know bothchristianity and islam don't accept this at all, and if u're going to say"well,i'm a muslim and i'm gay.HA!?" , then u'll be fooling urself, cuz if u're a muslim or christian and gay, then u're not doing what ur relegion asked u to do. so if u're a muslim and gay and u're fine about relegiously then it seems to me that u haven't read the Quran yet, and u'll be a muslim by name only.(same thing 4 christians)
thank you
and i mean by"families" is that they don't know whats going on with thier child's lives, so then the child will just go and learn by himself. and if the parents don't give thier child space to express to them how he/she feels, so if there might be some wrong feelings that the child didn't translate well, then time will go by and its gonna be too late to correct what has gone wrong.
thank you
the need 4 aspirin ..yo totally wrong coz biology says different from what are u saying !!
okay,and biology says that..........................................??
convince me
say it ... it says what ................ ????????
am i missing something here or what, i think that you (n-life) started the biology thing, so what i meant by "........??" is that i'm waiting 4 u to inlighten me with ur knowlege.
haha la2..ya haram..be_ur_self..my e-mail..hahah@yahoo.com..is wrong..i dont put my real e-mail :( haha sorry habibti..but if u want..give me ur e-mail..if u have msn.and i will add u..im lebanese, and im 17..to answer ur question ahaha...and i live in Canada..but i might be visiting Beirut soon:) haha yallah hope to talk to u soon
Waleg... Id like to say...could you not have mentioned this sick magazine after ramadan. Ya3nee haram. I feel sick just like LKM. Waleg please can you remove this topic its not intellectual and is degrading. Thank you
FIFI...sorry but if u dont like it..than dont look at it..dont read it..read other topics on WALEG...WALEG is meant for everyone..not just only you..i dont want to be mean..but read the topics that appeal to you
seriously, u cant be born gay.. im scared of u ppl, go read quran.. ro7oo 5ali 7ada yihdikom because judgement day is coming soon
"n-life" i'm waiting 4 the biological explaination or proof or whatever it is..anwirni
i'll send u the biology book hehe
well,that's what i thought u would say"hehe".next time don't say anything you don't know about or atleast not sure,if u're gonna say something,prove it.
i agree with u, the need 4 aspirin, btw how old r u??
i know something like that would happen soon if they r muslims they shouldnt be asking for such rights...allah yehdeehom
TO NEED FOR ASPIRIN,i am sure if you surf the internet ,you will find some research attesting to the fact that attest to the fact that people are born differently.however i respect your opinion,it was not bias and attacked other countries and religions.
the need 4 asprin...u want ur biological explantion..well it is true..some people, are born this way..becasue they are said to be "born in the wrong body"..like a girl can be born in a girl body, but think like a guy..and vice versa..now i no its haram..but if thats how u are..how are u gonna change it..its not like im gonna marry a girl..im gonna marry a man and have kids..cuz i no its haram..but its the way i think..i cant change it :)
hi,
first i'd like to address this comment to all the people that said corruption begins in lebanon . please respect yourselves and dont go talking about other countries like your the shit . and plus, stop trying to be tough, i mean we all know that you are pathetic losers with nothing else to do than diss other people.
And now, back to the topic, well i actually congratulate lebanon for progressing towards a more accepting society.. and to the people that are saying inno its against religion and etc, stop hiding behind your book and for once, think for yourselves. i live in the U.S and one thing that i like more is that over here you have freedom of thought, speech, and religion . And anyways, your religion doesnt exactly tell you to hate on people . so mazelkon hel 2ad m3ala2een b ur religion dont judge others. anyways . your probably thinking i'm a lesbian or something . but i am not . i am just here to defend those who are facing discrimination from close minded people . thank you .
Thought, I agree with you 100%. These sugar coated men and women are everywhere. There is nothing against 'em. However, I wouldn't appreciate it when they shove their leaning toward heterosexual people, especially straight men/women with stronger family values. In my opinion, homosexuality is a sin. However, the ones that commit it is between themselves and their sublime creator.
Furthermore, some Arabs with no values are hypocrits (I'm an Arab, and proud of who I am). They commit the utmost sins and fawahish, but they preach to you as otherwise.
We do evolve over time. Acceptance and comprise are two fundamental pilars of a civilized world. We have to accept things that we do not agree with. It is a give and take process.
As Arabs are concerned (not all, but most), we still live in a denial stage. We still point the finger at others. Before we can get over this hump, we MUST ACCEPT.
So let's stop lying to ourselves and live with the reality. This is not a subject about religion, nor about regionalism (your country/group, and my country/group). It is not a metaphor. It is not about religion. It is about identity. We must accept to live with each other, and the rest is between themselves and Ilahouhoum (their God)
In my case, i was born the way i'm. and i know that from the moment i was a child, and i had some conscience of myself, i knew that i was different. It was inevitable for me. i couldn't help it. i could'nt identify it, i couldn't call it by name. But i could tell you that i was attracted to boys. It was a natural thing for me.
I saw that i was like all girls, not like boys. i loved to play with dolls or, you know, girls' toys . i didn’t like to play baseball, go up in trees jump and down and be very active physically. I loved to play with girls’ toys. NOBODY taught me that….and even my mother taught me and even beated me several times to teach me i'm doing the wrong thing.. but I WAS BORN GAY... i remember my parents giving me these toys that were about some kind of electronic toys .In all honesty, that was very boring.
My parents never talked about these issues in the house. i even didn’t hear the word lesbian or gay or homosexual until i moved out of home (i'm almost 17 yrs old now and it was when i went to study in another city). My parents didn’t teach me any of this.
I think there are people who are born gay and there are people who choose to experiment with people of their own sex. But to say some of us don’t born this way? that is a fallacy. i was born this way, nobody made me this way; i didn’t make a decision to be this way. I was born gay. and it has been a very difficult thing to deal with.
What makes my case so "fascinating" is that it calls into question both of the dominant theories in the long-running debate over what makes people gay: NATURE or nurture, GENES or learned behavior. As IDENTICAL twins, me and my brother began as genetic clones. From the moment we came out to life, our environment was about as close to identical as possible - being fed, changed, and plopped into their car seats the same way, having similar relationships with the same nurturing father and mother. yet before either boy could talk, one showed highly feminine traits (me) while the other appeared to be like all boys.!!
Can anyone tell me what i'm supposed to do now?? i'm both muslim and arabic!! i fast, pray and read Quran ( wla hayda msh 7a2i??, is'nt my right to worship my god??) this god who made me gay!! im going to thank him anyway for this!!! PPLE plz understand me i'm not sick-minded i'm a normal person like you, i love to live and go out BUT i love men.. and plus i can't live my life is a big lie, i'm sure i'm not going to marry a woman lie to her, myself and have an affair in secret. it's simply not me to cheat and lie!!
i have never been with a boy untill now, and i dont wanna.. i prefer to keep this hurt inside me..im sure you are going to insult and hurt me now by telling me i'm sick or whatever.. but my life goes on.. i'm gay for 100%!!! what can i do?
i will simply live my life normal, i don't wanna marry a women or even have any relationship with womens or men.. i don't know, i'm really confused:(, i wanna study because it's my first priority and just thank God for that..
thanks and ramdan karem
and plz i dont wanna hear anyone say it's a fabricate story coz im not here to made up stories. this is what excatly happened with me
thank you again, waiting for your comments ( 2ele betmana wont hurt me coz i'm totally broken and hurted)
SOMEONE, i totally believe your story..i understand you very much..and who ever doesnt, thats there problem, and dont listen to them
i do not know why this topic is offensive,i mean no one is asking you to be a homosexual,just discuss it.it is a very intellectual subject,unless FIFI would rather discuss ruby,that is a subject worthy of discussion in ramadan,star academy,haifa etc(not)
Needless to say i almost committed suicide trying to cure myself i wanted to feel breathing for the first time. yes I've tried committing suicide on several occassions. and i ended up in the hospital in a coma for almost two weeks.God must hate me he cursed me for eternity he must hate me I'm stuck in Hell
im frustrated because i want to be strong and good like everyone else is and i cant. and when i smile, i really want to be because im happy. not because im holding my tears back. today im depressed and i want to be like everyone else that can just give up and end it, but i just cant.
pple i'm gay, WHAT SHOULD I DO HELP ME??? put an end to my life?? I CAN'T.. stop being gay?? i also can't..
i only see black in my eye
SOMEONE,
Tell me, how do you think we can help you?
do you think talking would help? Please let me know if I can help you! I had a friend at high school who was the same as you, I dont want to lie to you, Yes it was very sad , wether it was your choice or you were born this way, the issue now is not why are you this way, but how or in which way can you either fix it if its not that complicated or maybe find a way for you to happy, because at the end you will not please all the people around you. so do whatevr you can and try to be happy yourself first.
Hi,
I'm Lana.....I just turned 18 and I'm from Palestine. I read your story just a few minuets ago, and I am still wiping the tears away from my eyes. I can't comprehend how people could do something like that, or why they even they don't care about you, they don't want you to talk here.
it's really shameuful ya 3arab, idd it's shameful.
I don't know what to say...."I'm sorry" just seems like a wasted effort, but I am truly sorry about your story. and i'm ready to talk with you and help you just please never give up.. i'm sure there are also people here who can understand and help you.
All my love,
Lana
people i feel so bad:(
like i will never see happyness again
i feel like i am nothing
not even dirt
not even me
i feel so bad
i just want to die
die i want to
i cant stand all the sadness
every day i have to pretend to be so happy
i cant stand it
it is so bad in my head
no one know what its like
have so much hate thrown at you
so much terror inside you
no one can understand me
I don't want to live anymore
I hate myself because I'm gay.
My parents will kill me for being gay and all my friends will ditch me. I just want to die. just wanna curl up and die. I am so hopeless so DOWN . It isn't my fault. god created me in this way:(
i wonder if anyone can help me, please i need your help. i don't know what to do, i'm really lost.. i can't talk with anyone about it, i depend only on you:(
waiting for your comments
SOMEONE
hey someone, did u try to talk to ur brother about it??????
SOMEONE..i no it is hard for you to deal with the fact that you are gay...but ask yourself this question...what are YOU happy with? do you feel happy when you see a guy? and if that whats makes u happy, then by all means, stay with it...but of course always in the back of ur mind ur going to have regrets, but if u say u were born like this,its not ur fault...if a person is born with 4 fingers, they are gonna go crazy, or live life the way they are, and make the best of it? of course live life..i no thats not a nice example..but its proving my point..you dont have to hate urself..it will only make you feel worse..you are human like everyone else, and you should be loved like everyone else..if u say u were born liek this, taht means God created you for a reason..not to give up..but to take this as a lesson in life, to build on to other oppurtunities..it is a lesson, that you are being taught..take the best of it..and you will learn more things than u ever imagined
and oh ya..be_ur_self..still waiting on your e-mail habibti :) lol hope we can talk soon..byebye...and to SOMEONE..read what i wrote before this..if you read it.read it again and again..untill u really understand it..you have one life..why waste it?
Nadine u laugh so much :D hehe..yalla i'll give u my email but am gonna create a new one.. coz i can't give mine here;)u know ..
am totally with n-life !! the need 4 Aspirin is wrong .. those people(esbo & gays..) are like that from the moment of their birth.. ya3ne God create them like that ..life can't change any person to be in that way.. actually these are specific Genes and hormones in the body that are respnsible for this role ..role of feeling that they are not themselves they feel that they are like gurlz or boys they don't like their body maybe, etc.. so n-life is right ..and u can fine in many biology books about this subject and u can be sure from the proves also :)
byeeeeeeeeee
am totally with n-life !! the need 4 Aspirin is wrong .. those people(esbo & gays..) are like that from the moment of their birth.. ya3ne God create them like that ..life can't change any person to be in that way.. actually these are specific Genes and hormones in the body that are respnsible for this role ..role of feeling that they are not themselves they feel that they are like gurlz or boys they don't like their body maybe, etc.. so n-life is right ..and u can find in many biology books about this subject and u can be sure from the proves also :) ..thnx
and ba-byeeee
heyyy am also with n-life and bi-bi----R !!
haha ok be_ur_self..but to let u no again..the e-mail hahaha@yahoo.com is fake one lol..so delete it if u added it..and..how are you gonna give me ur e-mail? lol im so confused..if u cant give it on here than how? lol
sweet princess,
no i didn't talk about it to my brother, and i willn't.
to be honest, i only told one person about it ( she's an arabic girl from Canada) and she blocked me coz i'm "sick".
that's why i will keep that's secret.. COZ my im sure my parents and my whole family will kill me.
still waiting for your help:(
SOMEONE
SOMEONE..did u read what i posted..a few posts up..please read it..and say if it helped you a bit..i might be able to help u more
hey someone, if u want u can give me ur email address and i'll try to help u!! because its kinda weird to just post messages on here!!! and i won't block u like the other girl!! she's mean :)
be_ur_self, i would really talk to u agian online, but i just cant catch u... i'm sorry i'm not online all the time, and there is a time difference so its kinda hard to catch eachother online!! so anyways hope to talk to u soon
WALEG.. yesterday you said that the comments are closed and if you want to post something you can go to "www......" which i don't remmember, and then i posted a comment, but now the comments are back and i can't remmember everything i wrote yesterday, so may you put it back or here please.
thank you
SOMEONE,
u know what you are, who you are just like i am and regardless what ppl say or do, you need to be proud of who you are , u seem like a great guy and dont ever let anyone tell u different ... i know i dont tottaly know what you are feeling or going through , but be you dont change for anyone and dont ever even think of harming yourself in anyway , you have to be excepted for you and if ur not then they arnt worth "let them bark"... move then be somewhere where ppl appreciate and accept everyone, people out there seem so cruel.
dont sad be u need to cheer up
the need 4 Aspirin,
You can find the 'forum' link on the menu that is on the top of the page...
The exact address is:
http://www.waleg.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=16
to nadine, i mean come on, we're not talking here about ppl who are born
with something wrong in thier sex member or hormones or whatever, thats a whole differnt subject, i meant the ppl who only feel gay.
we r not plants, god created some plants that have either both female or male members in them, we r not that way, in our original creation we all must be naturally attracted to the opposite sex.
and to SOMEONE,if u read quran and do all what god asked you to do, you wouldn't allow urself to feel that way in the first place, cuz in the quran there is a very easy to understand story about the group of ppl long ago who did ubnormal things sexually, and allah said in his holly quran what happened to them, and there is only one reason y god putted that story in his holly book,simpley, to warn the ppl who will come later after 100000000 of ages, like u now. and trust me there is no no no no noway that god would creat some human beings with something that they can't control and still send them to hell, allah 7akeem w ra7eem....w 3adil.
lol if people were gays or lesbian all of you would not be in this world..
god did not create you to be gays or lesbian...so think about that before you start being gay or lesbian...if your father was gay you would not be here, if your mom was lesbian you would not either be here.
shame on you...why does the animals understand that more then the human
NICE,i have read a report about animals who only like to mate with animals of the same gender.i do not understand your argument.i do believe in the biological argument that people and even animals are born that way
nice, sorry but i guess u didn't read what i have wrote.. plz read this again
In my case, i was born the way i'm. and i know that from the moment i was a child, and i had some conscience of myself, i knew that i was different. It was inevitable for me. i couldn't help it. i could'nt identify it, i couldn't call it by name. But i could tell you that i was attracted to boys. It was a natural thing for me.
I saw that i was like all girls, not like boys. i loved to play with dolls or, you know, girls' toys . i didn’t like to play baseball, go up in trees jump and down and be very active physically. I loved to play with girls’ toys. NOBODY taught me that….and even my mother taught me and even beated me several times to teach me i'm doing the wrong thing.. but I WAS BORN GAY... i remember my parents giving me these toys that were about some kind of electronic toys .In all honesty, that was very boring.
My parents never talked about these issues in the house. i even didn’t hear the word lesbian or gay or homosexual until i moved out of home (i'm almost 17 yrs old now and it was when i went to study in another city). My parents didn’t teach me any of this.
I think there are people who are born gay and there are people who choose to experiment with people of their own sex. But to say some of us don’t born this way? that is a fallacy. i was born this way, nobody made me this way; i didn’t make a decision to be this way. I was born gay. and it has been a very difficult thing to deal with.
What makes my case so "fascinating" is that it calls into question both of the dominant theories in the long-running debate over what makes people gay: NATURE or nurture, GENES or learned behavior. As IDENTICAL twins, me and my brother began as genetic clones. From the moment we came out to life, our environment was about as close to identical as possible - being fed, changed, and plopped into their car seats the same way, having similar relationships with the same nurturing father and mother. yet before either boy could talk, one showed highly feminine traits (me) while the other appeared to be like all boys.!!
Can anyone tell me what i'm supposed to do now?? i'm both muslim and arabic!! i fast, pray and read Quran ( wla hayda msh 7a2i??, is'nt my right to worship my god??) this god who made me gay!! im going to thank him anyway for this!!! PPLE plz understand me i'm not sick-minded i'm a normal person like you, i love to live and go out BUT i love men.. and plus i can't live my life is a big lie, i'm sure i'm not going to marry a woman lie to her, myself and have an affair in secret. it's simply not me to cheat and lie!!
i have never been with a boy untill now, and i dont wanna.. i prefer to keep this hurt inside me..im sure you are going to insult and hurt me now by telling me i'm sick or whatever.. but my life goes on.. i'm gay for 100%!!! what can i do?
i will simply live my life normal, i don't wanna marry a women or even have any relationship with womens or men.. i don't know, i'm really confused:(, i wanna study because it's my first priority and just thank God for that..
shame on me??? 5ls la 3atab 3la almjanen
this my email i_wanna_die1_18@hotmail.com .. plz if anyone wanna help me, add me.. but if u wanna hurt me don't add me, i'm hurted enough:(
im waiting
SOMEONE
YA 3AIB ASHOUMMM!!! OH MY GOD, you people are WORSE than Europe or America! I mean... how can we be gay? its sooo 7araaaammm, ya allah. come on stop saying things like ''being gay is normal'' YAAAAKKK!!!!!!! yalla bye, boosa, nassa from SYRIA
TO SOMEONE, may i ask where do you live?
TO SOMEONE, may i ask where do you live?
Nadine plz add sweet princess's email and let her give u my email coz i can't put it here. Plz sweet princess give her my email when she add u w thnx alot.. (if u don't mind :) )
Ok.. first i'm different from the first Fifi.. Secondly, I had to put my 2 cents in..
WELLL.. I'm totally against the gay'leso thingi.. Wallah it's a serious issue, and instead of chucking the stupidest comments, we should help these ppl.
ppl shouldnt make fun of the whole subject. I've got gays and lesos in my uni classes (Australia), but seriously, theyre Aussies (or non-arabs). I think it's very sad that we have people who lovvee being gay/leso (i think these people are not happy at all deep down).
In class we we studying Gender, and this topic all went past. I just thought some of these facts might be useful. I don't want to give out a lecture but this really would help, i hope. Here it goes:
1. There is a definition for "homosexuals" but everyone understands it in their own way.
2. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR SEX AND YOUR GENDER. You can be female or male (which u can obviously not change) but... some people are -feminine males- or -masculine females-
3. The whole "HOMO" thingi is a SOCIAL THING, not possibly biological (i dont mean to offend, but ppl who are not happy with their gayness use the excuse that it's BIOLOGICAL)and because it's social.. those gays and lesos are influenced by the society and the media (JUST LIKE THIS MAGAZINE)... with the rise of social devices like this GAY MAGAZINE, more ppl will be influenced to become gay or leso as they will start thinking that this is "ALRIGHT" to do. As a matter of fact, things like this magazines will try to make this problem as a thing "IN FASHION".
5. (My point of view): I know I live in the West (i think lol) but we should not be influenced by wateva they do. THAT'S Y WE ARE CORRUPT ARABS!!!!! Y CANT WE HAVE OUR OWN TRADITIONS, OUR OWN WAYS OF LIVING, OUR OWN THOUGHTS.. cant we stick to things as being 3AYB? How would u feel if u had a child who was gay/leso.
ONE MORE THING: I thought i shouldn't put a religious point to it.. but it might help.. lol i might get hassanat ;)
... If u think Allah (swt) created u like that, then why would he TOTALLY prevent it in the Qur'an.. KONMU LOOT?! HINT HINT
anyways ppl i think ive got more to say (ive got an assessment on this whole thing lol) BUTTT.. THIS IS ENUF FOR NOW.. I'll just c if ppl are guna read this b4 i waste anymore time
im ready to help
GUD LUK
auh!!..finally there's some1 i agree with(or agrees with me :>) in this argument..tnx fifi the second :P
i agree with fifi too... where do u live fifi?? i think that made more sense than "the need 4 aspirin's" point of view... but i kinda agree with both.
thanks anyways chantle, i'm glad to know that there are a few ppl left with thier minds in thier heads.
the need 4 Aspirin what do u mean ?!?!?! other ppl do not have minds ??
yeah well i just wanna say i agree with the need for asprin and fifi 2 it is a social thing and not biological ,i dont relate it to religion but to ones who want to relate it to God,God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Jack or Eve and Janet (just an example people) and like someone said if being gay was normal y cant they have children?its not biologically natural and i dont accept it i really dont blame people who just end their relationship with people who come out of the closet (i'd do the same) because you chose to be "different" then you deal with the consequences of being "different". I really believe you can stop and control your feelings for the other gender and i know gay people are becoming more wide spread in every continent and country not just western world also Arab world but its the fact that these people who claim they are born gay want to have attention for being gay and its magazines like these that promote this social phenomeon .Oh well once again not my life but as you people said free arguement and freedom of speech so dont get pissed if i dont agree with your opinion
wow,for god's sake its just a comment,plus, i didn't say that.some ppl don't have thier minds in thier heads, its somewhere els, if u're smart enough, u'll know what i mean;).
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