
2 days ago, LBC TV hosted a special discussion on one of its weekly program… The discussion was about Star Academy & Saudi Arabia culture after the winning of Hisham Abdul Rahman…
Three main guests talked and showed different opinions about Star Academy show and its good and bad sides on the Arab World… One of the guests was totally against Real TV programs and he was wondering if any Arab Family would send its daughter to participate in such programs!!! – Families from Lebanon, Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt, Syria and Algeria already sent their daughters… -
Another guest said in a sarcastic way: ‘Do we have to be either with 100% Bin Laden or 100% Star Academy??’
What is your opinion? Do Star Academy or Real TV shows contradict with your country or not?
I don't think the contradiction comes from the country you come from, but from the family you were raised with, I don't want to point out some examples, but I see a big contradiction between people dressed up in an open minded way which I don't see any problem with it but this same person comes from a family that the mother and sisters are all covered up to the toe!!! I personally find it strange!!!!
people who dress from top to bottom..it's not about the family or anything..it's about how much they are into Islam..ya3ni what..akeed ilboy will wear shorts and t-shirt..and the woman will be covered..what do u want? the man to wear hijab..mako farg..a man can be dressed up 3adi and the woman beside him covered..o muslim women are covered cuz they're body is not cheap..for everybody to see. so you can't say if a woman is open minded or not by her dress..
you have a point there,nunu. The big example in the academy was Zizi.
Getting to the point of the subject now.
Bin Laden is a psycho. He did something very wrong and HARAM. What is the so HARAM about Star Academy? Did they harm anyone? Did they kill people?
Saudi Arabia people have been making a big deal about Star Academy for no reason. There is nothing wrong with the damn program. We will hear comments every year for the same nonsense reason.
If those people do not like, disagree, or even find it HARAM, then they should not watch it. Just ban the channel. Period.
Futhermore, LBC should not allow anymore students from Saudi Arabia to participate in the program. That will solve the problem and save others headaches. Those people are just too much into the religion. Everything is haram to them. An example is Waad. She is not doing anything wrong. They don't even allow her to go back to her own country. That is sick!
Star Academy is haram, but, Haifa Wehbe is Halal?
Give the Muslims a break, please!!
I am Lebanese and Muslim. Haifa Wehbe is the shame for the Muslims and Arabs, although she is from the extremist Muslims.
I bet if Haifa Wehbe goes to Saudi Arabia for some concerts, all men would be over her. Including all muslim countries.
With all my respect, they need to get out of their own cage!
Did star academy contradict with my country ? I don't think so, Tunisia is more open country. But I think that star academy has to respect the culture of the other country I know LBC it's lebanese channel and they are very open country too but all arabic country are watching. The second edition they tried to fix that problem because the first one was a little bit with out any rules concerning the way to behave in the academy. And It's not because you come from a country or a family more open that you have to behave like that in the show. It's like you visit a foreign country you have to go by there rules. And students has to respect the arabic culture and when you go home you will do what ever you want .
wild_il5aleej & Smara
I'm not pointing at Hesham!! Do u think I'm that stupid to claim that Hesham is wearing a short and the females are covered NO!!! LOL
Smara got my point ;)
Why the hell is LBC making a PAN-ARAB Show in the first place?
We have enough talents to make dozens of Star Academys for years to come (Much better than Samer or Katia for sure).
Sure it's making them lots of money but then again many headaches.
I think settling for an all Lebanese star academy would spare us much of these retarded debates.
I mean please! Mullas in Kuwait and KSA issued fatwas condemning the show as "satanic" and god knows what!
You Don't like it? Then don't watch it and most of all don't fund it (Knowing that Saudis fund such programs) and much less send your own sons to take part in it!
So much contradictions... Keep thinking this way and sooner than you know you'll be back to the stone age... you're halfway there anyways!
In my point of view, there is nothg bad in The staracdemy , providing that the students show respect for families (mostly conservative) who watch the program!!
And i totally agree with u nunu! it really has no relation with the country...coz inside each country u can find huge contradictions..its exactly the case in my country: 50% of families would never allow their daughters to participate in such programs...and the others,can not only send their daughters there but also allow some provocative behaviours!!!
staracademy isnt in the business of making stars, its in the business of ripping people's pockets specially the Gulf region ... its a cheap program .. making very young people watching this progam want to act like those in the program ...
You see how George make the girls kneel and move their legs and so on .. its all part of showing the sexy contour parts of a female body ..
its a low class program , the program along with all its staff .. they all stink
I think those pepople who makes "fatwa" that star ac is haram or something like that has to get a life!!! The sheikhs can giva fatwa about terrorism and say that its HARAM TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE AND THAT THOSE PEROSONS WHO DO THOSE THINGS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM IN FACT DON´T FOLLOW THE RELIGION!!! I think they must make fatwa on serious things not on programms like star ac!!!!!
the whole point is that this program is a corrupt program and its not in anyway good for teenagers or even some adults ...
it promotes the idea of girls and boys live under 1 roof ...thats complete nonsense ..
Besides ,, this program steals the young people money in terms of calls to vote or sms messages ..
Its robbey 1st class
To Marcella_Lebanon:
why are they giving you a headache? did they force you to see or listen to them? i don't understand you really!
""I mean please! Mullas in Kuwait and KSA issued fatwas condemning the show as "satanic" and god knows what!""
they have their own opinion just like you have yours..so please lata'3li6een
and u know what really if u put an "all lebanese show" it will be better..cuz we will get rid of ur silly comments of not wanting us..:) like we want you..LoL..and why.. did u see all Saudis and Kuwaitis sending their sons to participate in this show? may be about 5 only ti'3adimaw!
and if u think that the people of Kuwait or Saudia are into this program so much..ur really wrong..ta'3reeban only rubi3 the kuwaitis see this program..and i think much less than rubi3..and most of them are kids. don't think that gulf men are sitting 24 hours watching staracademy and wasting their money on this program.
and why are we in the stone age? other than salfat star academy? what do u see in Kuwait? i7tarmay other peoples religions and beleifs..cuz everybody ygdar i3ayib 3ala urs too.
""I bet if Haifa Wehbe goes to Saudi Arabia for some concerts, all men would be over her. Including all muslim countries.
With all my respect, they need to get out of their own cage!""
i think you mean the gulf countries here..and what makes you think that khaleejis will be over Haifa wahbe? i want an answer? with all respect..i wouldn't even think of going to haifa wahbe..her voice 7ada 3adi..and if u mean that she's beautiful..atleast not to me..and we do have very beautiful girls u know..it's not like we haven't seen girls ok.
wild_il5aleej
I respect what you just commented! I agree on some of the points, but for the most, No one should disrespect the gulf or any other countrey regardless!!
honestly i watched the program and i was shocked concluding tha the word may vanish and saudi will stay as it is with this mentality.
dont tell me that saudi dont have dish and special channels my friend is there and he is telling me
if they have dish, r they arabic channel?????????
bi sharafkoun e3din 3am yetkhabouleh wara shi esmo takalid eslamia lei masr w tunis w bahrain ma 3am bi tab2o hal takalid?3am yet7ajabo bas ma la hal darajeh men el moubelagha...
3amlin haloun they r the lonely and immortal country that will stay as it is since the beginning?
khalas shou hal 2araf
yet7addaro ba2a ba3doun bye23edo 3al ard la yeklo wel sahen had ejrayoun hayda ehtiram lal akel???
byehko 3an el ta3asob w 3andoun sex channels heik 3am bi na2do haloun.
Angel,,
why dont you decide what language you are using ?? almost cant understand a word ur using ..
we have dishes and channells and I have made sure to erase LBC from my list of channels ...
People! This SA mulla said that it's a shame that boys and girls sleep together in StarAcademy!! He made it sound as though they were sleeping in the same room, just to give added support to his dim view! He did not mention that there were so many cameras here and ther to watch their every move so no hanky panky could take place. Moslems were the first to break the rules in last year's Starac; Mohammed Atiyeh was all over the girls, hugging them and kissing them. So did Bachar, Khalawi, M. Sherif! They acted like wolves released among sheep! What hyppocrisy! Don't tell us Moslems are angels!
But true, I think this year, the rules about hugging and kissing were more stictly enforced.
Sharktooth,,
the style of the program helps immoral things to happen ...
Star Academy doesn't contradict with my morals or values AT ALL. On the contrary, everything about it is so innocent its hard to believe that the contestants in star academy are of the same age as those on, for example, The Real World (here in the U.S). There is absolutely nothing sinful and the contestants living together, working together, and trying to reach their goals.
In this case, KSA comes out as being a huge hypocrite. Roughly 40-50% of forums and SMS text messages to LBC come from Saudi teens watching this program. If it is so immoral and the religious authority there is so against it, they need to NOT show it on televisions there and not give access for Saudis to use International Phone lines to vote. Its such a hypocritical thing for a country to say that the program is demeaning and sent from the devil and then have that same country emerge as the most active in voting, text messaging and viewership!
And in my opinion, the only thing in Star Academy 2 that bothered me in terms of ethics and success is the way in which students treated each other badly (namely hisham's attitudes towards students he didn't like)
the problem isnt with the students, the problem lies within the academy immoral systems such as forcing contestants to do things other than what they want ..wear sexy clothes for females .., have hair cuts or else ...,,, forcing females to dress immorally .... encouraging habits not accepted by most arabian countries
if a student doesnt go along with them, he or she are expected to be punished ...
let me put it straight... this program is a very immoral program run by very immoral people in an immoral station in a country full of immoral things ...
The fact of the matter is that Lebanon isnt in anyway be classified as an Arab country ..
look at Emil Lahooh how he speaks .. or Junblat or the others.......... nothing of what they speak is Arabic ...
Lebanon isnt an Arab neither a Moslem country .. and thats the truth
Samie-jr
If you are that appalled from Lebanese people and programs and STAR ACADEMY, just stop watching the show and showing up here! and please don't say that you erased LBC from your channels because I remember you commenting on Star Academy show DAILY!
part of being immoral is judging countries and people and clamming that students are forced to do what they are doing! just cut it off for God sake
Hey nunu I agree with u 100 percent.
how stupid of u starboy
Algeria is very supportive to Star Academy, and 98% are muslim....
StarAcademy is respectful even the males and females are together they respect eachother and you don't see them kissing or doing anything wrong like France Starac.
The point is Saudi Arabia, and all the people who share the same opinion have that things about women only...Would you send your daughter??? they didn't say would you send your son!!! Everything is Halal for guys, Some of theses men claiming everything Haram they go to Syria, Lebanon, Morocoo and all open minded arab countries to get drunk and pay for sex....all kind of Haram they do it but when it comes to the women she needs to obey them and shut up....!!! Is it fair??????
We are in 2005 and such a program is great program we learned how Arabs like us leave, speak, .....All the girls that participated were decent girls from good families and knew how to act within their culture and religion.....
When you talk about Zizi...I don't think Zizi Sister's are that religious because the Hijabs that they were wearing were revealing....and that doesn't mean that it was wrong for Zizi to participate, she is the one whois singing in the show not her family....
So please theses mini Ben Laden go get a life...if the programs bother you don't watch it...
If Arabs send their children to participate in StarAc, why do they say it is immoral? Hypocrisy? Yes!
Guys from Khaleej love to participate b/c they never get to talk or see girls in their countries, so they jump at the chance! That's why there were so many Khaleejis in StarAc. LOL
All the way with you Shark tooth...But don't generalized some Khaleejy are different we are talking about 1% or their population
ok i understand that most of us are muslims...........but i dont see ANYTHING wrong with girls and boys communicating and living in the same place!.........Maybe im contradicting what the Koran says, but we are human beings.
to be honest, i dont think that anything wrong was done concerning boys/girls relationship in the show, i think it was honest, genuine and NORMAL for the students to act the way they did.
I have to say i completely disagree with what they were saying. i might be wrong but to me as long as it wasnt vulgar; it was fine.
its what makes the show successful anyway.
our religion has many more importan Values than these stupid boy/gurl relationship.
DAMN IT PPL!.......GET OVER IT, WERE HUMANS, WE HAVE FEELINGS, WHATS WRONG WITH EXPRESSING THEM!
hey guys
this nonsence is driving me crazy, last week i watched the hadeth on lbc and they were talking about hisham and what he did was wrong i understand that saudia people have this thing of not getting around girls or sllepping in the same house as the girls..who cares what saudia thinks, just because saudia and muslims have this seperationn between girls doesnt mean that they all have to folow that stupid rule, hisham did what he wanted. he didnt even do anything with the girls its not like he was all over themm.. he was moslty around the boyz..
anyway i think what zizi did was wrong all her family is dressed and covered from head to toe and she goes out on stage and wears dresses that show mostly all herr skin. and they didnt say anything about that now i think that was wrong..
come on people staracademy is a show of entertainment and having both guys and girls mixed together makes it even more funner and exciting to watch them get along. staracademy is a great show and they should continue it. those who disagerre then better stop watching staracademy or lbc and get off this site and mind thier business.
im christian and expressing my thoughts about this topic
who agrees with me.....luv libangirll
libangirl
I agree with you all the way :)
Look,,,
am not blaming the guys or students, , am playing those who put that model of staracademy thats way immoral atleast for the gulf region ..
stop choosing gulf people in ur program , stop tempting them ..
What i understand is that staracademy worldwide is Mafia run and operated .....and its western supported for research of how couples can live together in closed envirnoment .....
look, if some of u want to walk naked in ur nation , its ur business but dont come and attack the gulf for what they believe .. we may have bad people but by God, we have more good people and simple culture than u can think sff ..
It's so funny how few jealous people keep complaining about Lebanon and Lebanese people.
We all know that people from gulf are attracted to participate like other arabs in some programs..this is normal..and i don't think that the programs' producers beg these people to participate because there are a heck of millions of people waiting to go to real tv...few things may seem to some people immoral but this depends to the person's character..Don't insert the religion thing in the subjects coz this is getting so overrated..cool it down guys it doesn't deserve fighting!!!:) w niyyeli la2enni libeniyyehhh ;)
what is the difference between a man and a woman? there is absolutely no difference...if saudi arabia is such a religious country and they dont like shows like star academy because they say it is not a islamic show .... why do they send there men...religion is religion no matter what right so why does it matter if it is a man attending the show or a woman attending the show...