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What are Arabic video clips coming to?

Video clips were an innovative way of enriching and enhancing songs making them more interesting for people, in addition to introducing the singer through small movie telling a short story. In the past few months, things have shifted slightly in the world of Arabic video clips, instead of telling a story of love, hate, sadness and other moral feelings, Arabic video clips are tending to advertise seduction and to an extent erotica...

Some female singers aren’t really qualified to sing; they don’t have a good voice that could be called “ok”, but on the other hand they have bodies and ability to convey messages of seduction, erotica and nudity!

Some people may disagree but …Why does a short have to be so small and tight that it becomes equivalent to a pantyhose? Why does a top have to be so tiny and revealing that it becomes a bra?! Do the clothes really change the scenario or story of the video clip?

One of the Arabic video clips that you might find interesting is “Ana Hatlob Idak” by Nagla, you can watch it on one of the Arabic music satellite channels and you can decide for yourself.

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Comments

ashley
23 April, 4:13AM

so why not, if the whole world is doing clips like thsi why should we have to be behind and show old fashioned style "fresh off the boat" tedious clips where u have two ppl in stupid garden running to eachother, singing and dancing amoungst the flowers and waterfountains. PLEASE that is so FRESH and boring and way to 80's. we need funky new styles to keep up with the rest of the world AND BE JUST AS GOOD, AND IF NOT BETTER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD when it comes to music. and if we want our music to be embarrased by the younger generations in order to keep it alive for many years to come we have to show them cool and trendy clips that cater to their era that they are growing up in. Also we want it reach all the international arabs living in non-arab countries, we dont want the to forget about their arab music culture so if we make it more exciting for them and show them that the styles theya re presented in are just as good as the western clips that they are constantly surrounded by, they will embrace it more and not think that our music is not so oldfashioned to their liking, and they will not be as embarrassed to show their non-arab friends these cool new clips, they will want to show them off their friends and show them how cool we are- its about time we set westerners straight and prove to them how cool and fun the arab world really is. why cant we show off what we have.

jacob
23 April, 4:17AM

i think arabs should get over it and accept the fact that people are doing it to create interest and aesthically pleasing images to invoke interest and appeal.
wake and smell the coffee, this isn't 1941? we are more open and so should the arab world be, why should we fall behind because a few ideologies of certain groups dont like it. Who cares what makes them boss

alia
23 April, 4:21AM

i think both of you should shut up. this is a muslim world and muslim dont belive in that, i know some of these singers are not muslim, well bad luck to them, they are a disgrace and should learn to live by our standards because there are more of us. even if they think its ok, we dont. u stupid ppl with ur stupid western names and evil, ur are the work of satan who are sent here to try and make us think evil thoughts of americans and australians just like you do
to hell with ur and ur american/canadian/australian/european music

levi
23 April, 5:08AM

i think erotica is fine ONLY if they can trully sing and not be put on clips just to be sexualised and show off their image. if they can sing and show off a bit of skin then thats cool, but when u have ppl like haifa wehbe(dunno how to spell her name)who cant sing for six and are just put up there to be sexualised then i think thats stupid, coz we can all catch on(well most of us that are thinking with our brains and not our other regions)
yea as long as they can sing then its cool if they use sexually implied images to film clips

levi
23 April, 5:11AM

oh another thing to alia, maybe u shouldnt bring religion into this coz religion and music and kinda two differnt things, and this topic and forum is about entertainment not religion. i dun mean to be rude but if u wanna preach about that stuff maybe this isnt the best place to do that coz that comment is gonna put u in some hot water. trust me i know these ppl are fiesty and overreact, personally i think that post was really rude, even for my standards

Iman
23 April, 4:20PM

Sorry but I agree with Alia!

rania
24 April, 12:01AM

what do you mean levi? just because it's music, of course it has to do with religion. I'm a muslim and i don't like seeing us copy western vids. why should we arabs follow the steps of the american's and be like them? our music is 100 times better and we shouldn't have to copy them. yes, i live in canada and am disgusted at watching canadian/american videos sometimes. i don't want to have to start being disgusted with araby clips either. sorry ashley, but it's our music, we aren't being old fashioned. why should we have to copy people to be 'cool' or 'instyle'? whatever, i'm just saying i don't like the way we're headed with our music. just imagine how much worse it might get in a few years? americans already have nudity in their clips, and i don't want to even think about that happening to araby music. btw, good points alia

rania
24 April, 1:48AM

Very well put, Arwa. I definately agree with you. Yea, I live in Canada too, and i don't think your a fob at all. Can you believe that those three up there actually wrote something like that? wake up and smell the coffee people!

alia
24 April, 6:09PM

i also agree with u too Arwa 100%.I dont think ur a fob AT ALL either..... hey Rania and Arwa i live in canada TOO!.

Arwa
24 April, 8:35PM

thanks girls...I just can't stand when people think arabs are old fashioned...its like, no, we just have a little something called self respect and dignity... we aren't a bunch of sell outs... its so cool that y'all live in canada!! what are the chances of that happening everyday, eh (JK)

Iman>>Arwa Rocks!!
24 April, 9:30PM

Go Girls !!!
and Arwa You are right!

Arwa
25 April, 1:09AM

thanks girls...i'm honoured...its about time we set the record straight

rania
25 April, 6:50AM

oh yea! so ashley, jacob and levi, you still wanna argue? why don't you people think next time. GO arwa, sanaa, alia, and iman!

Deep
25 April, 4:57PM

If someone wants to sing; let him sing NOT STRIP. We’ve got enough porn already! Why do i have to watch Hayfa shower when i want to listen to music? if i want porn; I’ll watch porn. SING people; sing and stop striping. By the way, religion is involved in everything we do; don’t give me this bullshit about "leave religion out of this" I’m a Muslim; and this is a Muslim world.

Alia, i love you sis :p well said

Noura
25 April, 9:13PM

I just have somethin 2 say...... i am a christian living in Lebanon, and this is not a fight betw. religions. Most of my friends are muslim and i know wut they think, and i agree with them abt most things. But its not bcz of ur religion u shouldnt like 2 c video clips that uncover, its the personality of the person. i know plenty of ppl who like 2 c hiafa wehbe show her body, and i dont agree with them. if they want 2 be a singer, then sing, if they wanna be a stripper, then strip, but not on tv while we r waiting 2 watcha nice CLEAN video clip. So dont think that its only muslims who dont like 2 c this, all ppl. and its not a muslim world, its Gods world, and all diffrent kind of ppl live in it with diffrent opinions, and in my opinion, music is singing, not stripping.
~Noura

Rena
25 April, 9:28PM

It's all good if it is cute and sexy, similar to "Ah Wa Nus" of Nancy Ajram. But the above picture is soo UNFLATORING!! Arabs are not becoming more modern by showing this disgusting display of clothing and fashion. All of you who say we need to change with the times and be like Westerners are bullshitting. It is very disgusting.

Iman
25 April, 10:22PM

for Jacob Ashley and Levi why you do not shut up and simply go to the hel.

We live here in a Muslim world. Your body cover means the same as
respect for yourself for your famlie and for your religion.
I shame very much if I watch with my family at Arab clip and there comes much naked ppl in the clip, and sometimes I don't know where I must look at!
these people who show their bodies, deserve to go to the hel


Girls have some respect for your body and use your brains

Arwa
26 April, 12:31AM

oh ya Noura, I didn't mean it's just muslims...I know that proper people who believe in God and his teachings, no matter through which book, think this way too. Most of my friends are christian, so I know how they feel...proper people of the books (christianity, Islam, and judaism) know this is wrong...sorry I didn't make that clear, Noura!!

Malak
26 April, 2:44AM

THAT IS SO DISCAUSTING!!!
i can't belive that they r doing that. i m a muslim 2, and i agree with who ever say that this is wrong. just looking at that picture yeeww, its scary.

jacqui
26 April, 10:29AM

i am muslim and i just wanna say that i think u ppl just wanna try relate everything back to relgion and its just giving our relgion an even worse name. NO religion and music are two VERY different things, songs are not foucsed about god and heaven they are foucsed on tunes lyrics and rythm. Therfore no relation. Maybe some shit in filmclips might offened our religion but that deosnt mean MUSIC IS RELIGION like u uneducated ppl assume, that only relates to us and our thinking. However i am very disgusted at the sex and erotic behaviour that is displayed in film clips i DONOT agree that is has anything to do with religion, how does some tart running around in her g-string and bra have anything to do with god or our religious days, therefore (and i painfully have to admitt as much as i hate to) i agree with levi (i still hate u levi, but u are right in one area)religion is not related.

alia
26 April, 1:21PM

1) the other msg posted by alia was not me, it was some other one using my name
2) who cares what the other miniorties of arabs (eg christians) think just beacuse there relgion allows u to show skin doesnt mean that we have to witness this. i know lebanese are like the only arab country to have a pretty much equal muslim to christian ratio so they allow for erotic clips, but who cares what the christians think there, bad luck to them, just because they have a lot of christians that allow this in there country doesnt mean its ok for us to see it. its the lebanese who are starting this trend and other countries are following them so its all their fault, they are the "modern" country who have all ne "new" and "funky" style clips, They are the ring leaders that are making us all see it because they ahve equal amount of christians to muslims. So what muslims are the best and greatest and most powful, so if it conflicts with our religion then it should be banned beacuse only our relgion matters. we know the right way not any other relgion
levi, ashley and jacob are obviously lebanese christians so why should we listen to them anyway, they are the starters of this

N***
26 April, 2:37PM

hi i think that video clip sucks, the singer looks like a dog in her clothes, we're not complicated!! americain clips are higher class than those cheap arab singers, they really make me sick, they're becoming worse, i really hate them,,,,and it's gonna become worse soon if it's not stopped, it's not fun and cool to be fat and walk in a tiny shorts with a back blowing out, she can go to hell this ugly one!!! and by the way alia ur a jerk never say christians allows this u know nth about the reality i'm christian and very openned but i'll never look cheap as those singers, and all these singers are muslims so shut up and never say a word about us, ur really a sick person.

levi
26 April, 3:50PM

omg i knew it, i knew this would happen were bloody having a religious war... see... arghhhhhhh.
why oh why must everything be related back to religion when it has nothing to do with it.
thanx samantha and n**** u understood what i was saying i really appreiate that u took the time to sit and read my post, rather than look at it and automatically make ur own definition of it,

levi
26 April, 4:10PM

oh yea also thanx u sooo much to jacqui and sarah sorry for leaving u out before ddudes

Iman
26 April, 4:40PM

To Alia

Alia I have really a lot of respect for you
but what you
have said to the lebanese people and the Christians is very wrong put and you have gone too far by tacking this track to point the fingers on them, blame the stupid producers of the clips of whos religion doesnt matter, it their insane "educated" idea that matter because they are concerning and a worry because these crazy people actually have degrees and call themselves professions.
There are also muslims singers who dress themselves naked and you
give to the Christian and the lebanese the debt, which is not possible.
I did not like the issues discussed concerning the lebanese and the christians.

Peace


Ps: Chanel love you ! Crazy girl you are the best!!

Noura
26 April, 9:28PM

Ok, Alia, u listen here. I am a Lebanese Christian and wut u said abt the Lebanese is 10000000% wrong. u have absolutly no right 2 say that. u cant put the name of 2 heritiges in blame 4 the doings of a few singers!!! There r just as many christians as thre r muslims here and christanity and islam have the same base, GOD. so when u r insultling christians or leabanese in general, u r insulting God, so i guess u should watch wut comes out of ur mouth the next time u think of insulting any1. I am a christian and i am a lebanese, and i know wut ppl think here, they think that these new video clips r just as bad as wut u think, so dont u even think abt insulting ppl and places u know nothing abt!!!
Noura

Malak (angel)
26 April, 11:58PM

insted of fighting with each other all the time why don't u ppl just stop. every time we bring up realigon, we end up having a fight with each other, thats why these days ppl don't get along. some of u have a point, now that i read this again i kind of understood what u ppl meant. why don't we just get along and have peace. o ya i forgot to add that most of those gulz singers r not muslim, but its not all of the singers that r trying to be like slauts, its mostly the knew singers.

???
27 April, 12:08AM

let them de naked. idiots

rania
27 April, 2:28AM

okay okay. i said before this has to do with religion and i still think it does. but why are people saying crap about Christians? And no body better be saying anything bad about Lebanon. Seriously, araby videos are getting worse and everybody agrees with that. I just think that since alot of Muslims (and most Christians) don't like seeing that stuff on TV, that's where religion comes in, well at least in my opinion it does. I dunno i heard if you like the music you'll like the videos... and it's haram to see those types of images in Islam. meh, what ever. i dunno. i just disagree with it

Arwa
27 April, 5:01AM

ya, to the second alia, I am astonished that you would say such a thing about Christians...you are being ethnocentric, and you should not view yourself as better than christians, because they believe in God, the same God we do. I agree with some points made...obviously religion and music aren't the same thing, but those who believe in whatever religion (whether it be christianity, islam, or judaism) should be respected by certain singers before they choose to do things that are looked down upon. Also, to Jacqui, how can you call us uneducated?? Just because you don't agree with us does not mean we are uneducated...you don't even know me...for all you know, I could be more educated than you...but I'm not going to go telling people how stupid you are... you are entitled to your own opinion, although it is not in accordance with certain cultural expectancies, neither does it agree with religious expectancies...however, you are entitled to your opinion, and you are entitled to be arrogant, as well. By the way, "some tart running around in her g-string and bra" does have to do with God, because God, our creator, did not create women to go around flaunting her body like that, it goes against religious teachings...It is called humility...and thus, we see that religion is tied to this topic, no matter from which religious viewpoint you look at it...True, some people aren't part of any religion, but the vast majority of arabs are, and those same arabs are the ones that these videos are supposed to be watched by...have you thought about it that way?? So next time think before you call people uneducated...because no matter what you say, we , that is, the "uneducated people", can pick out your flaws and tell you where you went wrong.

sam
27 April, 11:13AM

i love you man and woman
i love music arab

baaaaaaaaaaaaay

N***
28 April, 5:00PM

lsn guys, some ppl here are very respectful and do differ between good and bad, it's not about religion, it's just because u think muslims cover their body and christians don't, i really think u should be aware of the bases found in other religeons, who said god lets christians get naked and others no, it's all about the culture u live in, and i'd like to add a point that wearing these shameful cothes isn't civilization, if u see highly educated ppl in usa or japan never wear these trash!! and the person should respect his body, it's sth private and holy, not for being shown on tv so that guys would be happy and the singer would get more money!

Arwa
28 April, 5:24PM

exactly N***!!!

Iman
28 April, 10:24PM

Too Waleg

Change this dirty picture!
My mom thought that I was watching an porno site(
She was angry on me.

Amani
29 April, 1:43PM

whuahahaha.. Iman..!!

D8 je moeder dat egt..? Egt typische ouders..!!

Iman
29 April, 7:41PM

amani shut up! hahhah

rania
30 April, 2:57AM

hello everybody! Sorry, this is useless, but Arwa, sorry...i can't email you back! But i read your recent email! thanks a bunch! anyways when my hotmail is up and running, i'll email you as soon as possible.

Malak (angel)
2 May, 3:29AM

why r we still talking about this, they realy should shange it, its so last week!!!

malak (angel)
2 May, 4:49AM

can some1 tell me if that picture up there is a arabic singer?

rania
2 May, 5:00AM

Yea, Malak, it is a arabic singer. That's the whole point of this message board. lol

Ahmed
4 May, 1:56AM

Hey all, I think this clip was made for other
purposes. Not singing at all. Anyways, I want to
say something that is extremely important. I am
a Muslim and God told us to stop looking at
these kind of stuff so what we have to do is to
stop looking if we are bothered that much, on
the other side there are lots of porn channels.
AND OFCOURSE WE CAN'T CLOSE ALL THESE CHANNELS.
so lets stop messing up with each other, and
top saying things concerning others religions.
Muslims are nice, kind and reasonable.

Marc
31 May, 6:02PM

La culture, comme de grand philosophe le disent, est dans la musique et l'art. Donc ce que fait Nagla représente la culture arabe.

bibo
7 January, 1:54PM

c'est tres joli